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Topic: Original Standel Amps |
Jay Fagerlie
From: Lotus, California, USA
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Posted 10 May 2015 7:34 am
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Are there any of the original "Butcher Paper" amps out there in working condition?
Does anyone use one on a regular basis anymore? |
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Rich Sullivan
From: Nelson, NH 03457
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Posted 10 May 2015 4:43 pm
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I have two, and unfortunately neither is working now. So the better question for me is - does anyone know an amp tech they would trust to work on one of these? |
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Terry White
From: Alabama, USA
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Posted 10 May 2015 4:49 pm
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Yes ! Danny Mc Kinney ! ! ! |
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Tim Whitlock
From: Colorado, USA
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Posted 11 May 2015 6:50 am
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Tim Maag is also highly recommended. He restored a Standel for a friend. I believe he is based in CA. |
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Brett Lanier
From: Madison, TN
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Posted 11 May 2015 12:48 pm
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I think there were only around 70 made to begin with. I don't have one, but I do use a later ('65) Custom XV. I bring it everywhere I go and it just keeps on tickin'. (knock on wood) |
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Michael Brebes
From: Northridge CA
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Posted 12 May 2015 7:49 am
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I've done a number of repairs on various Standel models and could handle the job, but I'm out in California. Might be a bit far to ship it. Hopefully you can find someone in your general area. _________________ Michael Brebes
Instrument/amp/ pickup repair
MSA D10 Classic/Rickenbacher B6/
Dickerson MOTS/Dobro D32 Hawaiian/
Goldtone Paul Beard Reso
Mesa Boogie Studio Pre/Hafler 3000
RP1/MPX100 |
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Jerry Roller
From: Van Buren, Arkansas USA
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Posted 12 May 2015 8:10 pm
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I have a 62 Standel Custom 15 Transistorized amp I would like to have repaired. I have several two more "parts" chassis like it. I know the tremolo module is bad but I am afraid to try to change it out. I have several of the colored modules but this hybrid has all black modules. Who might fix it? I bought it new in 1962.
Jerry _________________ http://www.littleoprey.org/ |
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Michael Brebes
From: Northridge CA
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Posted 13 May 2015 7:41 am
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I've done repairs on the "transistorized" Standels, which have a transistor preamp and tube power amp. The modules are not quite the same as the ones in the fully solid state amps. These are black modules and some might have a colored dot on them. I've made usable schematics for a number of the modules by slowly dismantling the potted module and tracking parts and board traces, then comparing to schematics of later modules. It's not cheap but I can repair the amps. Did a Custom 15 watt a couple years ago that had one bad module. _________________ Michael Brebes
Instrument/amp/ pickup repair
MSA D10 Classic/Rickenbacher B6/
Dickerson MOTS/Dobro D32 Hawaiian/
Goldtone Paul Beard Reso
Mesa Boogie Studio Pre/Hafler 3000
RP1/MPX100 |
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Tim Whitlock
From: Colorado, USA
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Posted 13 May 2015 1:52 pm
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What is it in the modules that make them go bad? I am confounded as to why Crooks would have designed them to fail and then have to be replaced! The schematics are here anyone needs them:
http://www.standelamps.com/support/schematics/epoxy_mods.html
The circuits look very simple to my untrained eye and I can't for the life of me understand why they fail. |
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Mel Bergman
From: Camarillo, California, USA
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Posted 13 May 2015 2:29 pm
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Jerry,
I just had Ed Sanner in Baklersfield CA redo the Trem circuit on my solid state Standel last month. Ed is THE old school SS wizard. He did a lot of design work on early SS amps, mostly for Mosrite. PM me for Eds info. Plus, he is a gas to talk to!
Mel |
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Chris Lucker
From: Los Angeles, California USA
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Posted 13 May 2015 8:32 pm
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I have had three, but have only one now. I have the "two thumbtack" one. Works like a charm, well if you don't cow t the Standby switch, which did not work on any of the amps I had. It makes the amp weak sounding but does not make it silent. You think the amp is sick until you flip the switch.
Tim Magg in Fullerton, CA. He helped Standel design the reproductions because there were so many undocumented changes through the 25L15 lifespan but Tim has had a lot of experience working on the many variations. Tim does not go online or email.
There are seven 25L15s that I know of here in the Los Angeles Area -- all work except one. _________________ Chris Lucker
Red Bellies, Bigsbys and a lot of other guitars. |
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Michael Brebes
From: Northridge CA
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Posted 14 May 2015 10:41 am
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Tim Whitlock wrote: |
What is it in the modules that make them go bad? I am confounded as to why Crooks would have designed them to fail and then have to be replaced! The schematics are here anyone needs them:
http://www.standelamps.com/support/schematics/epoxy_mods.html
The circuits look very simple to my untrained eye and I can't for the life of me understand why they fail. |
They thought that the modules wouldn't die and they didn't want anyone to use their circuits. Unfortunately, many found out in the early 60's that component failures plagued the transistor circuits just as much as the tube circuits. They thought they would last the life of the amp. Again, the epoxy module schematics listed above are only for the full solid state amps. The "transistorized" modules are quite different but similar. _________________ Michael Brebes
Instrument/amp/ pickup repair
MSA D10 Classic/Rickenbacher B6/
Dickerson MOTS/Dobro D32 Hawaiian/
Goldtone Paul Beard Reso
Mesa Boogie Studio Pre/Hafler 3000
RP1/MPX100 |
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Doug Beaumier
From: Northampton, MA
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Posted 14 May 2015 11:42 am
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Rich,
You should consider taking your amps to Jim Metz. He's the tube amp guru in my area (about 1 hour and 20 min. from you). Jim has 30+ years of experience working on vintage tube amps. He's worked on many amps for me over the years, tweed Champs, Deluxes, blackface Vibroluxes, Vibroverb, Oahu amps, Silvertones, Gibson, etc. Jim works out of his house and his prices are reasonable. The last time I was there his garage was completely full of vintage amps, stacked to the ceiling! I highly recommend him. You can reach him through his email link on the Spearit Sound web site. That's an audio shop where he's worked for years ----> http://www.spearitsound.com/about.html By the way, he also has a degree in electrical engineering from the University of Massachusetts. _________________ My Site / My YouTube Channel
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