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Scott Appleton


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Ashland, Oregon
Post  Posted 26 Jun 2004 10:44 am    
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The u12 I have has only 2 spots per finger for lowering a string. I want to add another change to the allready packed E strings. Do most steel changers only allow two changes per string? Is this the famous split pull set up I've heard so much about or is that another subject?
Thanks for your help
Scott

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C Dixon

 

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Duluth, GA USA
Post  Posted 26 Jun 2004 11:20 am    
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Splitting in all likely hood is not what you are wanting, or at least I am not perceiving it hat way.

Many Pedal Steel Guitars have only 2 "Lower" capability. Some have three. IMO, I would reject any new PSG that did not have at least 3 raise and 3 lower changers. With 4R/4L even more desirable. Excels have 6 raise and 5 lower capability. Truly an extroadinary changer. Since it also has the distinct advantage of no string breakage.

With more and more changes coming down the pike, 2 and 2; or 3 and 2 is just NOT adaquate in my opinion.

Now you can get achieve a triple lower on a two lower in various ways. A "Slave block" or "half-tone" tuner system can achieve this. However, this does require more mechanical aptitude than most players possess.

I would suggest your contacting the factory; and if that is not possible, contact PSG gurus like Ed Naylor or Bobbe Seymour. Do a search on this forum and send them an email.

carl
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Al Marcus


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Cedar Springs,MI USA (deceased)
Post  Posted 26 Jun 2004 7:49 pm    
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Carl- Your Excel is ahead of its time. I'm glad I don't have the problem that Scott mentioned.

As I have both Triple Raises and Lowers on my 20 year old MSA "Universal" Wood Lacquer model "The Universal" S12 with 8/5.

I still have the SuperSustain II pickup in the aluminum pocket. Sounds mellow Just like the old Sho-Buds.

I am amazed the some of these builders still have double lowers instead of triple.................al

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David Higginbotham

 

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Lake Charles, Louisiana, USA
Post  Posted 27 Jun 2004 6:22 am    
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Hi Scott, as Carl mentioned, the slave block is likely the way to go. You can attach it to a rod that is already pulling an E string. However, those 2 pulls will always be in conjuction. This will cause extra tension on the pedal or lever that it is used with as well as your playing may have to be adjusted accordingly as to accomodate the changes. You may look at adding a pull to a knee lever or pedal next to the E if it can be used in conjunction with what you are trying to achieve. Not all E changes have to be standard!

Dave
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Lee Baucum


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McAllen, Texas (Extreme South) The Final Frontier
Post  Posted 27 Jun 2004 10:09 am    
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Perhaps someone could post a picture of such a device. I'm curious to know how it works.

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David Higginbotham

 

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Lake Charles, Louisiana, USA
Post  Posted 27 Jun 2004 11:07 am    
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Lee I have one here somewhere and will try to find it. However, it is simply a small peice of metal about 1/2" square that you can slip 2 rods through. You place it in position on one rod that is connected to the changer and put a shorter rod through the other hole to make the pull you desire. Anytime you pull the rod hooked to the changer, it also pulls the rod on the slave block and the shorter rod.

Dave
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Del Mullen

 

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Flagler Co. USA
Post  Posted 29 Jun 2004 1:17 pm    
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We do make parts that would allow you to get the triple lower, please contact us if you are interested.

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Del Mullen
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Mullen Guitar Co., Inc.
www.mullenguitars.com
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