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Topic: Modulations in 'Cristo Redentor' |
b0b
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Posted 12 Apr 2015 1:17 pm |
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Cristo Redentor by Duke Pearson (originally recorded by Donald Byrd) is a beautiful and unique song. It contains two sections with the same melody, and the modulation between them is so subtle that non-musicians don't even hear it.
The [A] section toggles between Cm F for 16 bars, then does an 4 bar sequence that resolves to Gm C for 4 bars.
Similarly, the [B] section toggles Gm C for 8 bars, then does an 4 bar sequence that resolves back to Cm F for 4 bars.
Listen: https://youtu.be/w2KvM2T40RQ
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[A]
Cm F Cm F Cm F Cm F
Cm F Cm F Cm F Cm F
? ? ? ? Gm C Gm C
[B]
Gm C Gm C Gm C Gm C
Gm C Gm C Gm C Gm C
? ? ? ? Cm F Cm F |
Can anyone help me fill in the question marks?
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Jon Light (deceased)
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Posted 12 Apr 2015 1:41 pm Re: Modulations in 'Cristo Redentor'
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Never heard this before. Nice.
I just threw this up quick--what do you think?
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[A]
Cm F Cm F Cm F Cm F
Cm F Cm F Cm F Cm F
Gm Bb9 Eb Dm7 Gm C Gm C
[B]
Gm C Gm C Gm C Gm C
Gm C Gm C Gm C Gm C
Cm Eb9 Ab Gm7 Cm F Cm F |
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Charlie McDonald
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Posted 12 Apr 2015 1:49 pm Re: Modulations in 'Cristo Redentor'
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For sec A, I have Gm Bb/F Eb D* / Gm
For B, Cm Eb/Bb Ab G* / Cm
except the * chords are majors with a minor 10th.
Beautiful song.
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Chris Reesor
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Posted 12 Apr 2015 2:27 pm
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Jon, that sounds close to me. I don't have a recording handy except in my head, but I like the second chord in the modulations as dom7 and the third chord as Maj7. Then you can have D as a top voice pedal in the first mod and a G doing the same in the second if you like.
Great tune.
Chris
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b0b
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Posted 12 Apr 2015 3:40 pm Re: Modulations in 'Cristo Redentor'
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| Charlie McDonald wrote: |
For sec A, I have Gm Bb/F Eb D* / Gm
For B, Cm Eb/Bb Ab G* / Cm
except the * chords are majors with a minor 10th.
Beautiful song. |
Okay, I'll bite. What's a major chord with a minor 10th?
Also, how do I play it on my baritone ukelele?
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Chris Reesor
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Posted 12 Apr 2015 3:46 pm
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7#9. Sounds OK there too.
CR.
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Charlie McDonald
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Posted 13 Apr 2015 5:04 am Re: Modulations in 'Cristo Redentor'
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I missed this
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| Also, how do I play it on my baritone ukelele? |
I don't think you can.
More often used as a passing tone, I heard Herbie Hancock play it on Miles' 'Basin Street Blues.'
I think of it in the way Gershwin used the m10 to move through his Cm Prelude.
I hear both the m3 and M3 implied on the V chord on Redentor; as a blues 7th it resolves nicely to the changing root.
Maybe technically it is a sharp 9, interesting, Chris.
But thanks for biting. Somehow, I don't think it's what you were looking for. 
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b0b
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Cloverdale, CA, USA
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Posted 13 Apr 2015 8:40 am
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7#9 is a chord name I understand. I'd never heard of a minor 10th before. Now I get it. Thanks.
| Charlie McDonald wrote: |
I missed this
| b0b wrote: |
| Also, how do I play it on my baritone ukelele? |
I don't think you can. |
Oh ye of little faith. 
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Baritone uke
D7#9:
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4 | | |
G7#9:
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| 1 | 1
2 | | |
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Michael Barone
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Posted 13 Apr 2015 9:49 am
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This is what I hear. Note the timing:
Gm------Gsus2-----Bb7------EbMaj7----Eb7---D7+5
|-/-/-/-------/-----|-/-/-/-/-|-/-/----------/-/--|--/-/-/-/-|
Then a 4th higher
The augmented 5th chord is not there every time. When not, I believe it's implied. |
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Glenn Suchan
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Austin, Texas
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Posted 13 Apr 2015 10:45 am
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"Cristo Redentor" - what a great song.
Thanks to everyone for posting on the modulation. I first heard this song as done by Charlie Musselwhite. His version splits the last bar of the modulation with a 7th resolving into the Gm or Cm (does that make sense  )
See what you think:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UDJSy2zyz0
Keep on pikin'!
Glenn
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Charlie McDonald
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Posted 14 Apr 2015 6:08 am
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faith
Another example is the Perry Mason theme; it could be the major minor ambiguity is implied by the suspended 9th
added to the #9.
I think I call it as I do because we're in flats.
To me the important thing is the tension between M3 and m10, minored relative of 10.
An old school handful would be (and the Musselwhite piano player does some of this)
You may see why a bass player might think in two chords, unless you're Jaco (and you're not). 
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b0b
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Cloverdale, CA, USA
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Posted 14 Apr 2015 7:11 am
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I'm playing bass in an R&B band, and we're thinking of doing a funky arrangement sort of like this latter-day Donald Byrd:
https://youtu.be/H1geUIAa5y4
Based on the comments above, here's the chart we'll be using:
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[A]
Cm F Cm F
Cm F Cm F
Cm F Cm F
Cm F Cm F
Gm Bb9/F EbM7 D7#9
Gm C Gm C
[B]
Gm C Gm C
Gm C Gm C
Gm C Gm C
Gm C Gm C
Cm Eb9/Bb AbM7 G7#9
Cm F Cm F |
I've played it (on bass and uke) against both Byrd recordings and it works well. Thanks, everyone!
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Charlie McDonald
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Posted 14 Apr 2015 10:25 am
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Redemtor Christo meets Shaft, I like it.
I hope you get to play bass; the key is the descending line (Bb9/F, and even /E to EbM7/Ab /A to D7#9.
(I had looked on uke charts; bass is easier).
But everybody likes a funky uke.
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