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Topic: -B/Bb/A. Waste of time/ effort on LKV??? anyone use it? |
Bob Carlucci
From: Candor, New York, USA
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Posted 3 Apr 2015 3:54 pm
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I know this has been discussed at some point, but I am wondering if anyone has it and is ok with it???. I would like to try it again, to see if I can make it work.. I think I tried it in the past and gave up, as it was too hard to feel, very unlike the feel on a "sideways"lever.. Just wondering if its on anyone's guitar.. I am pretty adaptable to a mushy feel, like many steel players that have played old junkers for decades...bob _________________ I'm over the hill and hittin'rocks on the way down!
no gear list for me.. you don't have the time...... |
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John Booth
From: Columbus Ohio, USA
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Posted 3 Apr 2015 4:01 pm
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Bob, Most of my guitars have had it and I use it often enough to justify it. _________________ Jb in Ohio
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GFI S10 Ultra, Telecaster, a Hound Dog, and an Annoyed Wife
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Lane Gray
From: Topeka, KS
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Posted 3 Apr 2015 6:52 pm
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I've never tried it, so it's just conjecture, but a half-stop on a vertical sounds awkward. _________________ 2 pedal steels, a lapStrat, and an 8-string Dobro (and 3 ukes)
More amps than guitars, and not many effects |
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Richard Sinkler
From: aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana
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Posted 4 Apr 2015 10:36 am
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I use my vertical to raise my F#'s to G. I thought I would try the first string F# to G and G# with a half stop. Could never feel the half stop well enough to make it usable. I tried a half stop on a pedal one time, and that didn't work for me either. If you have to hit the half stop in a quick move, you need a pretty stout half stop and knees/feet sensitive enough to feel it. Only my knees going left and right are usable enough for me. _________________ Carter D10 8p/8k, Dekley S10 3p/4k C6 setup,Regal RD40 Dobro, Recording King Professional Dobro, NV400, NV112,Ibanez Gio guitar, Epiphone SG Special (open D slide guitar) . Playing for 54 years and still counting. |
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Larry Bressington
From: Nebraska
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Posted 4 Apr 2015 10:45 am
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I prefer a solid simple Co-ped, i'm sure i miss out on some features because of it, but i don't like multidrops on any knee, not even half stops, it sounds a bit much Bob, there's plenty of other toys to play with on the neck. _________________ A.K.A Chappy. |
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Bob Carlucci
From: Candor, New York, USA
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Posted 4 Apr 2015 1:17 pm
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John Booth wrote: |
Bob, Most of my guitars have had it and I use it often enough to justify it. |
OK John, just so I'm clear.. You do the feel stop on the Bb ?? You go from B to Bb[feel stop}, and then down to A.. is this correct??. . bob _________________ I'm over the hill and hittin'rocks on the way down!
no gear list for me.. you don't have the time...... |
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John Billings
From: Ohio, USA
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Posted 4 Apr 2015 1:33 pm
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Ricky,(please say a prayer for him) customized my '74 ShoBud S-10, from 3&1 to 3&6. There is a nice solid half stop on the vertical. I seldom drop it to A, but do drop to Bb often.
_________________ Dr. Z Surgical Steel amp, amazing!
"74 Bud S-10 3&6
'73 Bud S-10 3&5(under construction)
'63 Fingertip S-10, at James awaiting 6 knees
'57 Strat, LP Blue
'91 Tele with 60's Maple neck
Dozen more guitars!
Dozens of amps, but SF Quad reverb, Rick Johnson cabs. JBL 15, '64 Vibroverb for at home.
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Jason Putnam
From: Tennessee, USA
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Posted 4 Apr 2015 1:44 pm
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I have the vertical to Bb on mine and I don't think I could feel a half stop. It's awkward enough just to get used to the vertical. It would have to be a real noticeable difference in tension to be useful. Just my opinion. But it would be cool if you can make it work. _________________ 1967 Emmons Bolt On, 1995 Mullen PRP 3x5,Nashville 112, JOYO Digital Delay, Goodrich Volume Pedal, Livesteel Strings |
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John Booth
From: Columbus Ohio, USA
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Posted 4 Apr 2015 2:14 pm
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Bob Carlucci wrote: |
John Booth wrote: |
Bob, Most of my guitars have had it and I use it often enough to justify it. |
OK John, just so I'm clear.. You do the feel stop on the Bb ?? You go from B to Bb[feel stop}, and then down to A.. is this correct??. . bob |
No, I didn't mean to imply that,
I just drop Bs to Bb and that's all I would do with a vertical,
a half-stop on a vert would be too hard (I think) _________________ Jb in Ohio
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GFI S10 Ultra, Telecaster, a Hound Dog, and an Annoyed Wife
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John Billings
From: Ohio, USA
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Posted 4 Apr 2015 2:22 pm
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"a half-stop on a vert would be too hard (I think)"
Not if it's done right! The one Ricky did for me is not hard to use at all!
JB North _________________ Dr. Z Surgical Steel amp, amazing!
"74 Bud S-10 3&6
'73 Bud S-10 3&5(under construction)
'63 Fingertip S-10, at James awaiting 6 knees
'57 Strat, LP Blue
'91 Tele with 60's Maple neck
Dozen more guitars!
Dozens of amps, but SF Quad reverb, Rick Johnson cabs. JBL 15, '64 Vibroverb for at home.
'52 and '56 Pro Amps |
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Jason Putnam
From: Tennessee, USA
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Posted 4 Apr 2015 2:29 pm
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Ricky is a master at working on guitars though!! I installed my own so I was just happy that it worked correctly!!! _________________ 1967 Emmons Bolt On, 1995 Mullen PRP 3x5,Nashville 112, JOYO Digital Delay, Goodrich Volume Pedal, Livesteel Strings |
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Bob Carlucci
From: Candor, New York, USA
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Posted 4 Apr 2015 3:41 pm
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Adding tension is NOT an issue.. It can be done quite easily using multi hole bellcranks and juggling which holes in the lowering fingers you insert the pull rod.. Failing that, I can always install a spring loaded feel stop. They are much more precise, and are quite adjustable..
I think I will do what I always do. Ignore all the good advice I got here, and just see if it works for me . I recall trying it and NOT liking the outcome, but what the hell... Maybe this time it will work.. I don't lower string 10, and that might help... bob === _________________ I'm over the hill and hittin'rocks on the way down!
no gear list for me.. you don't have the time...... |
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John Booth
From: Columbus Ohio, USA
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Posted 4 Apr 2015 3:42 pm
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Go for it Bro !
JB South _________________ Jb in Ohio
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GFI S10 Ultra, Telecaster, a Hound Dog, and an Annoyed Wife
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