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Rodney Leach

 

From:
Stuarts Draft Va. 24477 USA
Post  Posted 18 May 2004 2:38 pm    
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I am considering adding the Paul Franklin
4th to a new SD-10 Williams and am not sure
if I need to add it as the 4th pedal or put
it in the P1 position and move the other
pedals to 2,3,4.If I do this will I need to
have the knee levers moved as well.I play the
Emmons setup.Your comments would be greatly
appreciated.
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David L. Donald


From:
Koh Samui Island, Thailand
Post  Posted 18 May 2004 2:52 pm    
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I have it on the 4th and think I would like it on the p1, for what it' worth.
I would use it more often if it were at P1

It might not really mean moving the levers.
Just adjusting how far they go side to side a bit.

But it is also a question of how cluttered you under carriage is,
and how much you use BC together.
I have 4 pulls on C6 plus the 3 Franklins on P4 now.

Sorta like double clutching a Peterbuilt.

[This message was edited by David L. Donald on 18 May 2004 at 03:57 PM.]

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C Dixon

 

From:
Duluth, GA USA
Post  Posted 18 May 2004 2:59 pm    
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Some are making it pedal 1 and moving A B C over one pedal each. Others are adding a pedal "0" to the left of the A pedal. It is my understanding that the reason for these ideas is, the pedal is often used just before or just after the A pedal.

I am leaning towards what Tommy White is doing. He split the PF pedal. IE, he has the 5 and 10 whole tone lower on one knee lever (I believe its a knee lever) and the 6th string whole tone lower on another one.

There are some great voicings possible splitting the changes.

Since I lower the 6th string a whole tone on RKL already, I am going to lower just 5 and 10 on pedal 4. I may end up using a Pedal 0 (as above) also; with all three changes on it. Time will tell.

carl
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Larry Bell


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Englewood, Florida
Post  Posted 18 May 2004 3:25 pm    
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I've had it on P1, P4, and a knee lever.
P1 is best for me, but I think it kinda depends on your own style and preference, so don't take anything anybody else tells you too seriously.



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2003 Fessenden S/D-12 8x8, 1969 Emmons S-12 6x6, 1971 Dobro, Standel and Peavey Amps
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Bob Snelgrove


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san jose, ca
Post  Posted 19 May 2004 5:31 am    
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I have Tommy's setup and I like the split. The only hard thing for me is engaging LKL(4 lower) and LKV(6 lower) at the same time. 5 lower is RKL.

bob
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Lee Baucum


From:
McAllen, Texas (Extreme South) The Final Frontier
Post  Posted 19 May 2004 5:35 am    
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It should be next to your "A" pedal, which raises the B's to C#'s.

If you use the "Emmons set-up" it should be on the first pedal. If you use the "Day set-up", it should be on the fourth pedal.

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Lee, from South Texas
Down On The Rio Grande

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Tony Prior


From:
Charlotte NC
Post  Posted 19 May 2004 6:24 am    
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I have been thinking about this as well. Currently on my Carter D10 it is in the 4th pedal position but I am strongly considering moving to the P1 position where I think without a doubt I would use it much more than I do and it would also bring my AB pedals more in lin with the left side" E" levers.

I fully agree with the comments above concerning placing it far left on the food chain..

Just doing it is the issue..time..time ..time..

t
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Keith Currie

 

From:
Shellbrook, Saskatchewan, Canada
Post  Posted 19 May 2004 2:28 pm    
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I guess it should be where you like it and find it best for you. Paul Sr did advise me to put in the fourth spot and I like it there fine. Randle has his there also.
Keith
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Gary Preston


From:
Columbus, Ohio, USA
Post  Posted 25 May 2004 5:45 pm    
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I have a new Williams SD-10 with the Paul Franklin pedal on pedal # 1 . I would'nt do that again at that position . I played my Sho-Bud for 25 years with the Emmons set up and i think that is the eaisest way . At least for me . I have to sit to the right toward the pick-up more than i usually would with that pedal at # 1 position. But i'm use to it now but it took a long time to make that transaction . We have to live and learn huh ? G.P.
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Bob Snelgrove


From:
san jose, ca
Post  Posted 27 May 2004 5:12 pm    
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Guys

Why should it be next to pedal 1? A few lick examples would be appreciated.

thx

bob
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Richard Sinkler


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aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana
Post  Posted 28 May 2004 1:29 am    
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Well Bob, the most basic lick would be to play 5 & 6 (and 4 or 8 if you want) with AB pedals down. Let off the AB pedals. Press the Franklin pedal. Let off the Franklin pedal. Then press down the AB pedals. It would be much quicker (an assumption here, as some players have no problem quickly jumping over pedals to activate other pedals) to just be able to pivot your foot from the AB combination over to the Franklin pedal than having to jump over the C pedal.

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