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Tommy Everette


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Whitakers, NC
Post  Posted 3 Mar 2015 7:05 pm    
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I'm looking at getting my first push pull Emmons and wanted input on pros and cons of a '72 P/P.
Thanks folks!


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Ray Montee


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Portland, Oregon (deceased)
Post  Posted 3 Mar 2015 7:23 pm     I have one, purchased NEW!
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I've played the one I have for years now......and it not only still looks good, but SOUNDS GREAT!

That was a very good year.........

Never been in a repair shop......
NOTHING has ever broken............
Love the guitar......
At no time, did I ever consider replacing it.
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Dave Diehl

 

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Mechanicsville, MD, USA
Post  Posted 4 Mar 2015 7:47 am    
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Althought he's left us, Bryan Adams, whom I consider one of the most knowledgeable about Push Pull Emmons Guitars, once told me that the early 70's were the best of the Push Pull guitars. So, having the confidence in Bryan that I did, I believe they are. Can't verify from personal experiences. To me, all Push Pulls sound great.
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Rick Johnson


From:
Wheelwright, Ky USA
Post  Posted 4 Mar 2015 7:57 am    
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I've owned a push-pull for 30 yrs. As long as
I don't change my string guages it almost
never goes out of tune and then its just tune it
back to pitch.
The only exception is taking it out
in the weather. I found if I just open
the case and let it warm up of cool down
its fine. Just have to check the open tuning.

Rick

www.rickjohnsoncabinets.com
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Peter Freiberger

 

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California, USA
Post  Posted 4 Mar 2015 8:25 am    
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I have a '72 Fatback D10 a couple of my good friends (who have very nice P/P's of their own) have repeatedly offered to take off my hands. The earlier P/P's also have wider spaced pedals that I'm more comfortable with.
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Henry Matthews


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Texarkana, Ark USA
Post  Posted 4 Mar 2015 11:39 am    
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Every year was a good year for push pulls. Even though thru the years they have sounded different, they all sound good. Bobbie Seymore once said that he thought the 80's on average were the best sounding. Some think the early first ones sounded best. I myself think the early 70's were the best sounding so who knows.I can't pick the best out of these two, both early 70's.



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Henry Matthews

D-10 Magnum, 8 &5, dark rose color
D-10 1974 Emmons cut tail, fat back,rosewood, 8&5
Nashville 112 amp, Fishman Loudbox Performer amp, Hilton pedal, Goodrich pedal,BJS bar, Kyser picks, Live steel Strings. No effects, doodads or stomp boxes.
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Jack Strayhorn

 

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Winston-Salem, NC
Post  Posted 4 Mar 2015 5:48 pm    
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Why would the vintage change what they were? Very few, if any, design changes after 1968. The company was operated by Ron Sr. the entire time.
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Chris Lucker

 

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Los Angeles, California USA
Post  Posted 4 Mar 2015 7:40 pm    
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To my ears, Emmons guitars sound generally the same after the Cut Tail model. By 1966 They were using jigs to standardize the fitting of parts, so less built in tension. The cabinets were made stronger, which is not a good thing in my opinion for tone, and the castings were made heavier. That being said, if the guitar is restored, the person doing the work needs to know to put an Emmons together.

I think of the comparison of a 1964 Wraparound to a Cut Tail as being like comparing a 1930 National with no truss rod to a new resonator from National Resophonic. The new National is rock solid and sounds great, but the old National has a special sound that comes from everything under a balanced tension and even a springiness.

Remember, the Wraparound is the only Emmons where the changer is not attached to the solid endplate. It is also the only Emmons with hollow necks and the first ones had what serve as echo chambers underneath the slightly microphonic pickups (the ones with dials in the necks)
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Red Bellies, Bigsbys and a lot of other guitars.
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Dave Diehl

 

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Mechanicsville, MD, USA
Post  Posted 5 Mar 2015 7:46 am    
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Even though major changes were not made, small changes did happen during their production and even small changes (and particularly material changes)can have affects on tone and playability.
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