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Topic: Another Aluminum Fry Pan 8 String Guitarr, Redesigned Head |
W. Johnson
From: Oregon, USA
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Posted 15 Jan 2015 6:11 pm
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I just completed another aluminum fry pan guitar, which I call 'FryPan-8'. The headstock is different than the first one, a 5 degrees bend at the head, which is flat with no hole in the center. Here are a few pictures:
I wound my own single coil pickup, putting 2 full ounces of 42AWG wire on it. I measure over 15K resistance. This pickup seems a bit louder than my first Frypan, which had 12K resistance. I got so carried away putting too much wire on it, I had to put the eyelets off to the ends in the corners. Will have to make wider flatwork for the bobbins or wind less wire. I make the flatwork myself for the pickup, and am using alnico 5 magnets.
This guitar is completed. Sounds real nice.
Wayne _________________ I am on Facebook as Innovative Guitars. Photos of all my work in photo album. I no longer make lap steels, but still make tone bars. |
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Johnie King
From: Tennessee, USA
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Posted 15 Jan 2015 6:26 pm
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Very cool build |
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Mike Spieth
From: Santa Fe, New Mexico
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Posted 15 Jan 2015 7:35 pm
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Gorgeous! |
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Johnne Lee Ables
From: Minnesota, USA
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Posted 16 Jan 2015 7:55 am GREAT build, Wayne.
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I wish I were half as talented as you.
After my new Fred Justice C6 PSG is paid for I may ask you to build me a "Fry Pan".
Very nice.
jl _________________ Justice S10-Pro 5x4 C6
Roland Cube 80GX
Wonderful Wife
"In the course of a long life a wise man will be prepared to abandon his baggage several times." |
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Jack Aldrich
From: Washington, USA
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Posted 16 Jan 2015 12:51 pm
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Very nice but,to me, it ain't a Frypan unless it has a horseshoe pickup. Rick Aiello says he will make one on my Shot Jackson JB Frypan if I send him the original ribbon pickup. _________________ Jack Aldrich
Carter & ShoBud D10's
D8 & T8 Stringmaster
Rickenbacher B6
3 Resonator guitars
Asher Alan Akaka Special SN 6
Canopus D8 |
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W. Johnson
From: Oregon, USA
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Posted 16 Jan 2015 2:11 pm
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Jack Aldrich wrote: |
Very nice but,to me, it ain't a Frypan unless it has a horseshoe pickup. Rick Aiello says he will make one on my Shot Jackson JB Frypan if I send him the original ribbon pickup. |
My guitar aint a Frypan?
Wayne _________________ I am on Facebook as Innovative Guitars. Photos of all my work in photo album. I no longer make lap steels, but still make tone bars. |
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Tom Snook
From: Ft. Lauderdale, Florida, USA
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Posted 16 Jan 2015 4:32 pm
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Maybe it's a canoe paddle _________________ I wanna go back to my little grass shack........ |
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Larry Phleger
From: DuBois, PA
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Posted 16 Jan 2015 4:46 pm
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What ever you call it, it's one fine looking piece of work, and I bet it sounds as good as it looks. I was wondering how you made your flatwork for the pickup. I've used the flatwork Stewart McDonald sells, but it's pricey. |
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W. Johnson
From: Oregon, USA
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Posted 16 Jan 2015 5:30 pm
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Larry Phleger wrote: |
What ever you call it, it's one fine looking piece of work, and I bet it sounds as good as it looks. I was wondering how you made your flatwork for the pickup. I've used the flatwork Stewart McDonald sells, but it's pricey. |
I use 1/8" thick wood. I've used myrtle, mesquite, and cherry, but many kinds of woods will work. I cut it to size, with a hack saw (believe it or not), use a flat file to bring to exact size, and use my mill to drill holes. I use .195 magnets and have a .195 drill bit for exact fit. I wind the wire directly onto the magnets (like a tele or strat), wax pot the pickup and wrap with vintage cloth tape.
I also purchased some 6 string flat work from Stewart McDonald, to use as templates, but so far, I have not used them. I have looked at buying 8 string bobbins but seems kind of expensive, so I decided to see if I could make my own. Also, there is a difference in sound between using plastic bobbins and winding directly on the magnets. Anyway, it's cool to be able to wind my own pickups. Kind of intimidating at first, but after making a few, it's no biggy.
Wayne _________________ I am on Facebook as Innovative Guitars. Photos of all my work in photo album. I no longer make lap steels, but still make tone bars. |
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Roger Shackelton
From: MINNESOTA (deceased)
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Posted 17 Jan 2015 8:21 am
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Hi Wayne,
Have you considered installing both controls in front of the strings?
It appears that the rear control would be in the way of the players picking hand. ??
Roger |
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Stephen Cowell
From: Round Rock, Texas, USA
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W. Johnson
From: Oregon, USA
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Posted 17 Jan 2015 8:19 pm
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Roger Shackelton wrote: |
Hi Wayne,
Have you considered installing both controls in front of the strings?
It appears that the rear control would be in the way of the players picking hand. ??
Roger |
I'm not exactly sure what you mean by in front of the strings? Farther up, back, both to one side? I can probably do whatever is best for the player, according to his/her preference.
What about a very low flat profile knob, lower than the stings flat to the body?
Wayne _________________ I am on Facebook as Innovative Guitars. Photos of all my work in photo album. I no longer make lap steels, but still make tone bars. |
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Bill Creller
From: Saginaw, Michigan, USA (deceased)
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Posted 22 Jan 2015 8:01 pm
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What Roger means is that the control being on the player's side gets in the way of the picking hand sometimes. Bakelites started with a control there, but went to both being on the outboard side. I suppose it depends on the player...
Your frypan is silky smooth !! Very nice work !! |
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Jonathan Lam
From: Brooklyn, NY
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W. Johnson
From: Oregon, USA
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Posted 23 Jan 2015 1:43 pm
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Bill Creller wrote: |
What Roger means is that the control being on the player's side gets in the way of the picking hand sometimes. Bakelites started with a control there, but went to both being on the outboard side. I suppose it depends on the player...
Your frypan is silky smooth !! Very nice work !! |
Okay, thanks for the explanation. Seems like both tone/volume controls could be on one side. Might try it some time.
Wayne _________________ I am on Facebook as Innovative Guitars. Photos of all my work in photo album. I no longer make lap steels, but still make tone bars. |
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Andy Henriksen
From: Michigan, USA
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Posted 23 Feb 2015 5:43 am
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Any sound clips of this guy? I really love the look of it. And the price is very reasonable... |
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W. Johnson
From: Oregon, USA
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Posted 23 Feb 2015 9:49 am
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Andy Henriksen wrote: |
Any sound clips of this guy? I really love the look of it. And the price is very reasonable... |
Sometimes I think my sound clips do more harm than good. I tore my 8 string frypan apart, need to reassemble it and I can make a few sound clips.
The first frypan-8 I made, here's what the musician who purchased it has to say about it:
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I bought the newest Fry Pan guitar from Wayne at Innovative Guitars to use for all of the Hawaiian tunes we play where an 8 string lap steel is needed. The only adjustment I have made is a peel and stick fretboard overlay for low light stage conditions..... This is a great guitar with some of the best sustain for any lap steel I have. I play Wayne's 6 string Alumilap when we travel because it has the same characteristics and holds up very well while travelling. The 8 string Fry Pan is solid tone and sustain. Very loud and clear under high volume. I just put the C6 tuning at the center with a G on the high end and an A on the low end ------ Now I don't want to play anything else. Here are my comments after two nights of playing the Fry Pan:
I put a peel and stick 22.5 on it --- lots of contrast --- no problem looks pretty good. Getting lots of comments. Holding tune really well. Very loud and holding a warm tone----- I can get a good distort if I push it -- but it does not want to distort---- The sustain is stronger than the 6 string aluminum------ Fantastic--- I can hold notes with clarity for as long as I need them------- I can even play during a quiet set with a great deal of sustain---- Sound is awesome--- This is a beast-----
Jim R....
Hawaii _________________ I am on Facebook as Innovative Guitars. Photos of all my work in photo album. I no longer make lap steels, but still make tone bars. |
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