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Topic: Reassigning my LKV - help! |
Roger Rettig
From: Naples, FL
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Posted 17 Jan 2015 9:30 pm
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Right now my lkv is raising my 6th a whole-step - I like the pull but have to admit it doesn't get much use.
My RKR is lowering 2 & 9 but I have the 2nd string lower set to just a half-step (I use that a lot with pedals down and I like not having to rely on a feel-stop to get that half-step).
My plan is to hook up my LKV to lower the 2nd a whole step. Can anyone tell me where on the bell crank and changer I should locate it to get a good result?
Thanks... _________________ Roger Rettig: Emmons D10, B-bender Teles, Martins, and a Gibson Super 400!
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Jim Priebe
From: Queensland, Australia - R.I.P.
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Posted 17 Jan 2015 11:48 pm
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Roger - in my experience (I have that one and 7th string up 1/2 on LKV) this uses a lot of movement to get it down a full tone so you need the bellcrank/rod well out from the shaft and the opposite at the changer end to give maximum changer movement.
The up lever movement may be fairly long but usually this is used with AB down so it's not a problem. _________________ Priebs GFI ('09)Short-Uni10. GFI ('96)Short-Uni SD11. ('86)JEM U12
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Roger Rettig
From: Naples, FL
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Posted 18 Jan 2015 6:24 am
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Thanks, Jim - that's what I'll try. _________________ Roger Rettig: Emmons D10, B-bender Teles, Martins, and a Gibson Super 400!
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Charles Kurck
From: Living in Arkansas but Heaven is home
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Posted 19 Jan 2015 5:44 am Hot-rodding the LKV
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Roger;
Some vertical knee levers have too much travel.
I set mine up for a short throw.
At my knee contact point there is only one inch of travel from start to finish.
To do this I made extra-long bell cranks.
These bell cranks are twice as long as the original bell cranks.
I also changed the vertical knee lever stop so it would bottom out sooner.
This does make the action stiffer, but I always keep my toes on the floor
or the pedals and raise my heel to lift the lever.
Doing this requires little effort and provides good speed and control. |
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Larry Bressington
From: Nebraska
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Posted 20 Jan 2015 10:32 am
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Roger, have you tried lowering 2nd a full step with E's lower lever...I have found that to be fairly nice and I have locked in on that...I'm sure you have tried it, but I thought I'd mention it eventhough that wasen't the question.
I too did away with the half stop on 2nd, I sure like a straight D there nice n firm.
Cheers ode chap! _________________ A.K.A Chappy. |
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Roger Rettig
From: Naples, FL
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Posted 20 Jan 2015 11:49 am
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No I haven't, Larry, but I'd like to have the resulting C# available along with strings 3,4 & 5 unpedalled, as it were, so I'd have a 6th note along with the major triad. Lowering the Es would defeat that.
In any case, I don't have rods to spare - there's only one pull currently on my LKV and I just need to move it to get what I (think I) want. _________________ Roger Rettig: Emmons D10, B-bender Teles, Martins, and a Gibson Super 400!
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Brint Hannay
From: Maryland, USA
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Posted 20 Jan 2015 1:10 pm
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Roger, you might consider tuning your 2nd string to D, raising it a half step on RKR and lowering it a half step on LKV. Still no feel-stop, shorter travel on the vertical, simultaneous D's on both 9 and 2 for E7/9 and D major voicings across the neck, and a very nice harmony available with the 9th C# and 2nd D# together on RKR. |
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Roger Rettig
From: Naples, FL
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Posted 20 Jan 2015 2:37 pm
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Brint:
That's an interesting suggestion but, while changing a little-used knee-lever's function is one thing, monkeying around with my open tuning could have disastrous consequences - 'specially as I'm right in the middle of a six-week 'Always, Patsy Cline' run!
I do like it in theory, though, as radical as it sounds to to an old Luddite who's had a D# there for over forty years. Thanks. _________________ Roger Rettig: Emmons D10, B-bender Teles, Martins, and a Gibson Super 400!
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