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Jonathan Scherer


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Post  Posted 30 Dec 2014 10:20 pm    
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I want to thank everyone that created, maintains and contributes to this forum and community.You are all a tremendous wealth of knowledge!

I started to learn how to play lap steel almost two years ago and have a Oahu Tonemaster. Played it for 8 months in Open E, this year I am playing it in C6th.

I'm looking for a National Dynamic and have some questions for the Dynamics players. I want to use it for blues/rock in Open E and the Oahu for country.

Are there any difference in sound between the 1948-1949 green model and the 1950-1955 black and white ones. General differences,specific differences and any preferences for one over the other.

From other threads about the Dynamics here, it looks like this era Dynamic needs no change to the wiring through the tone control. Is my understanding correct that this is an issue only for the 1960's models?
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Lee Holliday


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Post  Posted 31 Dec 2014 1:48 am    
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The place to look is in the book, and I mean the book it is a must have for anything, National Valco, related.

Palm trees & senioritas by Mark Makin who contributes to the forum.

Regards

Lee
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Brad Bechtel


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Post  Posted 31 Dec 2014 8:42 am    
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Mark Makin's "Palm Trees, Senoritas...and Rocket Ships" is the definitive work on the history and models of National instruments.

As far as I know, either model of the Dynamic will be a fine sounding instrument.
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Terry VunCannon


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Post  Posted 31 Dec 2014 10:15 am    
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I love my 49, 51 & 60s Dynamics...I sent you the link with my 51 in the studio.
You can't go wrong with a National Dynamic.

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Tom Keller

 

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Greeneville, TN, USA
Post  Posted 31 Dec 2014 10:38 am    
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I have a mid 50's black and white model that is a heavy duty rock and blues machine.
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Rob Anderlik


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Chicago, IL
Post  Posted 31 Dec 2014 12:09 pm    
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Hey Terry,

Nice family photo dude! From now on I think I'll refer to you as Mr. Dynamic!
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Jonathan Scherer


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Stehekin, Washington
Post  Posted 31 Dec 2014 5:59 pm    
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The Mark Makin book looks fabulous, oh boy I get to read a new book about lap steel guitars!! Thanks for the tip and link, Lee and Brad.

Mr.VunCannon, I agree-a fine,dynamic family photo!

Happy 2015 everyone.
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Tom Pettingill


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Post  Posted 2 Jan 2015 7:56 am    
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I've always liked those Dynamics! I've had an idea for a Dynamic inspired steel rattling around in my head for a while now ... one of these days.
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Terry VunCannon


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Greensboro, North Carolina, USA
Post  Posted 2 Jan 2015 9:12 am    
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I have thought before that you could do a Dynamic style instrument Tom. You should.
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Steve Branscom


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Post  Posted 2 Jan 2015 9:39 am    
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Just got my copy of the Fretboard Journel. It contains an article on Greg Leisz. He's shown with his Dynamic and there are a couple of comments on why he owns at least 1.
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Terry VunCannon


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Greensboro, North Carolina, USA
Post  Posted 2 Jan 2015 10:22 am    
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This is the lap steel and amp that first caught my ear at a Jackson Browne concert in the late 70's. David Lindley's tools used on many JB records. Classic.


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Olli Haavisto


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Jarvenpaa,Finland
Post  Posted 2 Jan 2015 3:17 pm    
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I have a New Yorker with the big pup that looks similar to the one on the Dynamic.
What are the differences? I think mine is a late 50's or early 60's model?
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Jonathan Scherer


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Stehekin, Washington
Post  Posted 9 Feb 2015 10:39 pm    
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I got a nice 1948 last week, having fun!




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some nice scars and sounds sweet!
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James Hartman

 

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Post  Posted 10 Feb 2015 6:04 am    
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I've never had an opportunity to play a Dynamic. How does the pickup differ (if at all) from that of the later era single-pickup New Yorkers?

Oops, just noticed Olli asked the same question.
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Terry VunCannon


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Greensboro, North Carolina, USA
Post  Posted 17 Feb 2015 10:17 am    
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More Dynamic eye candy...


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Jonathan Scherer


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Stehekin, Washington
Post  Posted 31 Mar 2015 10:27 pm    
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This 1948 Dynamic I got in February has volume to the ends of the world ("My World is Round") but there is no tone variation.
Am I missing out? I've tried it with the knob and without, there is absolutely no variation in tone.

I'm real happy with the volume and the sustain is fabulous.

Don't know enough about it looking at the wiring but I believe it would not have the issue Steinar addressed about the '60's era Dynamics.

Would 250 pot and .050 cap be what I want?

For what it's worth, this guitar also has Freddie Roulettes autograph on the back probably done with a pen knife.
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Jonathan Scherer


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Stehekin, Washington
Post  Posted 31 Mar 2015 10:31 pm    
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Russell Taylor

 

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Dade City, FL
Post  Posted 1 Apr 2015 5:49 am    
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What is considered to be a fair price for one of these?
I came across this one on reverb.com

https://reverb.com/item/288787-1942-national-dynamic-hawaiian-lap-steel

It's a slightly different body style, but very cool looking I think.
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Joe Breeden

 

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Virginia, USA
Post  Posted 1 Apr 2015 10:11 am     National steel
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Do the later model Nationals,(1951 duals) sound as good?
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J. Wilson


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Manitoba, Canada
Post  Posted 1 Apr 2015 2:52 pm    
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Hi Guys!

Happy to be back after a year or so away. Even happier that my return coincides with the topic of National Dynamics.

Check this out:

http://bb.steelguitarforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=2369154#2369154
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Doug Beaumier


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Post  Posted 2 Apr 2015 7:49 am    
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Here a cool old picture I grabbed off a web site a while back. Sorry I don't remember which site this comes from.


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Jonathan Scherer


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Stehekin, Washington
Post  Posted 2 Apr 2015 8:11 am    
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Great photo! Thanks for posting,Doug.
Gotta get my printer working again (;>)
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James Hartman

 

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Pennsylvania, USA
Post  Posted 2 Apr 2015 12:00 pm    
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Olli Haavisto wrote:
I have a New Yorker with the big pup that looks similar to the one on the Dynamic.
What are the differences? I think mine is a late 50's or early 60's model?


I was going to ask this same question. Sure looks like the same pickup, far as I can tell from the photos.
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Doug Beaumier


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Northampton, MA
Post  Posted 2 Apr 2015 12:10 pm    
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Yes, I think it would be the same pickup. The New Yorker was made for nearly the entire run of the National Company, late 1930s to 1968, and they had several different kinds of pickups... string-over, string-through, hidden pickups, and this wide PU with chrome cover and adjustable pole pieces was the last version, I believe. Probably made in the same factory as the Dynamic.
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J. Wilson


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Post  Posted 4 Apr 2015 2:57 pm    
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Russell Taylor wrote:
What is considered to be a fair price for one of these?
I came across this one on reverb.com

https://reverb.com/item/288787-1942-national-dynamic-hawaiian-lap-steel

It's a slightly different body style, but very cool looking I think.


$500 is a great price. I was surprised to learn that the Dynamics dated as far back as 1942!! Very cool.

Mine is a 48. I paid just under $500 about four years ago.
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