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Topic: Peterson tuners |
Frank Parish
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Nashville,Tn. USA
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Posted 20 Dec 2014 6:15 am |
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| I just bought the Stomp Classic used from a local guy here and although it seems like a good tuner none of the sweetened tuning are close to being in tune! It sounds ok but isn't close to 440 on the E's. So I'm trying to customize this beast to do what I want it to. Has anybody here been able to do this? |
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Jack Stoner
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Kansas City, MO
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Posted 20 Dec 2014 7:11 am
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According to the manual, this has the Newman SE9/SC6 which are reference to 442.5Hz. There is also an OE9 which is the Newman E9th settings reference to 440Hz.
This is the same as on most Peterson Tuners that have Pedal Steel programs. |
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Frank Parish
From:
Nashville,Tn. USA
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Posted 20 Dec 2014 7:08 pm
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| The first one the SE9 is as you say 442.5 and is just way to high in pitch for me unless I am literally going to play below the fret. The one OE9 is below 440.5. Another thing in tuning with these tuners, are you tuning with the pedals up all the time to not allow for the cabinet drop or pedals down? I haven't seen anything that says anything about this at all. I'm trying to learn how to customize it have my personal settings so it will be at 440 with the pedals down and so on like the old Jeff Newman setting were. I don't tune everything the way he did but that was my starting point and it's probably more my ear than anything now. After tuning these things for over 30 years I think everybody probably finds something that works for them. I'm tuning all the beats out as best I can. |
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Keith Currie
From:
Shellbrook, Saskatchewan, Canada
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Posted 20 Dec 2014 9:12 pm
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| Frank I use the SE9 and tune with no pedals down, but when I tune the a pedal and the b pedal I push both pedals down, same with b and c pedal. My Franklin does not have much drop so I may be a little sharp on the Es. It has not been a problem with other players so guess it is ok. |
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Jack Stoner
From:
Kansas City, MO
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Posted 21 Dec 2014 3:05 am
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I used the original Newman tunings (at Zero or 440) for years with some slight modifications to other strings. When I first got a tuner with the Newman settings at 442.5hz I tried it and didn't like it. I went back to my customized 440 settings.
When I got the new Peterson tuner, I tried the Newman at 442.5 and found it works well. I've been using this for over a year. |
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W. Van Horn
From:
Houston, texas
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Posted 21 Dec 2014 6:12 am
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| IMO you will need to tune differently for different steels(if you are tuning sweet). You tune to the cab drop. Tune your pedal down A note to 440, tune your E's to that A, then the pedal up E is where you base the tuning. The more cab drop you have the sharper your E's will be. Ricky Davis and bob Hoffnar have posted detailed instructions for this tuning method if you search the forum. I assume this is what Franklin does when he tunes his E's to 442. |
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W. Van Horn
From:
Houston, texas
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Posted 21 Dec 2014 6:19 am
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| Sorry, just remembered that he has said that tuning to 442 is to match the stretch tuning on pianos, if I remember correctly. |
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Dave Bertoncini
From:
Sun City West, Arizona USA
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Posted 21 Dec 2014 6:42 am
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| Are you sure the reference pitch hasn't been shifted to something different? |
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Frank Parish
From:
Nashville,Tn. USA
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Posted 21 Dec 2014 3:47 pm
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| What I'm doing is first I tune the guitar to the Peterson settings for the SE9 and then I hook up my Boss TU12 to see how they match up. The Peterson is easily 442 and it just makes me play behind the fret. It sounds great if you're playing by yourself but with the band or with just a singer playing flat top you will have to play behind the fret or you're sharp. 442 is not standard tuning! I was hoping to reset the tuner to my settings but I don't think I can do that. I followed the online manual instructions and it does not give me that option so it's a take it the way it is thing with the Peterson tuner. I'm gonna mess with it and see if somehow I can use it but it's just so sharp from where I've been for a long time now. Somebody complained and said I needed a tuner with true bypaass so they wouldn't hear me tune haha! I use the Boss TU12 or the TU15 and if I want the beats out I have to use my ears to make that happen. |
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Jack Stoner
From:
Kansas City, MO
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Posted 22 Dec 2014 3:12 am
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Paul Franklin, as has been reported, tunes to 442. Is he sharp or out of tune?
Tuning to the SE9, on my E9th, and open I'm perfectly in tune with the rest of the band. |
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Dick Wood
From:
Springtown Texas, USA
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Posted 22 Dec 2014 8:07 am
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I use the SE9 and am in tune with the band. I have noticed that if the guitar player uses a cheap stomp box tuner then there are some issues. If he tunes using my tuner then all is great.
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