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Topic: My own chord charts |
Jason Bergeron
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Posted 15 Dec 2014 1:22 pm |
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I am in the process of making my own chord charts, based on my E9th setup (Emmons). I thought this was a good idea since I was having a bit of a tuff time understanding other charts.
Throughout this process, I have gotten some very much appreciated help from the members on the forum, especially Mr. Lane Gray.
Is there any way that I can post my file on here (Microsoft Word 2010) so that y'all can give me input?
Thanks in advance!
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Lane Gray
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Posted 15 Dec 2014 1:26 pm
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I think you'd have to take a screenshot of it, and post the image.
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Jason Bergeron
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Posted 15 Dec 2014 1:32 pm
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| Lane Gray wrote: |
| I think you'd have to take a screenshot of it, and post the image. |
I'll give it a try. All I have is a cheap Tracfone.
This is what I have so far....
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Lane Gray
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Posted 15 Dec 2014 2:24 pm
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To assist you in filling in the rest, I'd point out that EVERY inversion you have of E (which looks like most of them) can be moved two frets up to become F#, three frets up to become G, 5 frets up to become A. and so on. This isn't hard to finish fleshing out.
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Jason Bergeron
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Lake Charles, LA, USA
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Posted 15 Dec 2014 3:05 pm
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When you are talking about E, you mean the string, not the E-chord, correct? If so, for every string combination that I have a string 4 and a string 8, I need to move either 2, 3 or 5 frets from where those strings are listed?
I'm a bit confused.....because if I am understanding this, doing that would change each chord to a completely different chord. Like if I play an E chord on fret 3 and move it to fret 5, that would give me an A or D chord???
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Joe Huggins
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Posted 15 Dec 2014 3:16 pm
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| Anywhere you have an E chord, slide the bar up 2 frets it becomes an F# chord. |
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Lane Gray
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Posted 15 Dec 2014 4:07 pm
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Jason, music is ALL about mathematical relationships.
Notice that A chord with no pedals is at fret 5, C is up three frets at 8, D is two frets up (and 5 above A) at 10, E is two frets above that (and 7 above A) at 12 and 0.
Most three chord songs are 1, 4 & 5. In A, that means A, D and E, in that order. Take the song "Heartaches by the Number (or Charlie's Shoes, the same darn song), you can do it in A, and never leave the 5th fret.
Two measures of no pedals (A), two measures of the AB pedals (D), then two measures of LKR and RKL (E).
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Jason Bergeron
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Lake Charles, LA, USA
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Posted 15 Dec 2014 4:09 pm Additions made
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Are these correct? How much farther do I have?
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Joe Huggins
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Posted 15 Dec 2014 4:15 pm
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| 6-8-10 on the first fret is not a C chord. |
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Jason Bergeron
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Lake Charles, LA, USA
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Posted 15 Dec 2014 4:30 pm Thanks!
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| Joe Huggins wrote: |
| 6-8-10 on the first fret is not a C chord. |
Made the correction. Any other issues?
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Scott Duckworth
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Scott Duckworth
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Etowah, TN Western Foothills of the Smokies
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Posted 16 Dec 2014 4:06 am
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And I should add, I use the picking exercises found on this website:
http://steelguitaramerica.com/
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Tommy Auldridge
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Posted 16 Dec 2014 5:26 am C on the first fret
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| Joe said 6-8-10 on the first fret is not a C chord. If you lower the 8th. string, it will certainly fit a C chord. Think about it. |
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Lane Gray
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Posted 16 Dec 2014 6:45 am
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Jason is new to music, and telling him a C6/Am will fit probably is early. Jason, either use RKL to drop 6 to F#, or use 7 instead of 6.
At the first fret with LKR and RKL engaged or use 10/8/7, 8/7/5, 7/5/4, 7/5/2, 5/4/1 or 5/2/1.
Am can, in fact, substitute for C major. But right now, you're learning how to make the building blocks of music. Chord substitutions are like the baseboards; let's add trim later.
That said, Tommy speaks the truth, and is a cool guy and great player.
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Jason Bergeron
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Lake Charles, LA, USA
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Posted 16 Dec 2014 1:58 pm Revisions made to C chord chart
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Thanks for the input Mr, Lane!
I have had a little music teaching, but that was back in Elementary when we played bells. Each of us had our own which was a different note. And each of us had our music sheet and knew when to play that note. It was fool proof LOL!
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Joe Huggins
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Posted 16 Dec 2014 3:26 pm
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| On fret 1: 7-8-10, 5-7-8, 4-5-7, & 1-4-5 all need E's lowered to be a C chord |
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Joe Huggins
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Posted 16 Dec 2014 3:37 pm
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Jason,
I hope you are learning as much as I am on this little exercise. You are putting my little brain to work. |
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Jason Bergeron
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Lake Charles, LA, USA
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Posted 16 Dec 2014 4:35 pm Glad to be of help!
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Jason,
I hope you are learning as much as I am on this little exercise. You are putting my little brain to work. |
It's starting to gel a bit now. What about the grips of 1-2-5 and 2-5-7 on fret 1; do I need to lower the E's on that as well for a C?
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Joe Huggins
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Posted 16 Dec 2014 5:15 pm
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| No. I think they are good as they are. E's are strings 4 & 8 so they wouldn't be affected anyway. |
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Jason Bergeron
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Lake Charles, LA, USA
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Posted 16 Dec 2014 5:46 pm What's next?
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Updated my C chords. Anything else missing from the others?
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Joe Huggins
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Bear River City,Utah, USA
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Posted 16 Dec 2014 6:18 pm
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OK. Here is the relationship that Lane was talking about.
Compare your: C Chart fret 3 & D Chart fret 5
C Chart fret 8 & D Chart fret 10
C Chart fret 11 & D Chart fret 13
Do you see the relationships? C to D is 2 frets. 3 to 5 is 2 frets. 8 to 10 is 2 frets. 11 to 13 is 2 frets.
All your charts should look about the same with just the fret numbers changed. |
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Jason Bergeron
From:
Lake Charles, LA, USA
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Posted 16 Dec 2014 7:01 pm I think so....
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I think I see the relationships between them. My eyes are getting a bit bloodshot. I'll take another whack at them tomorrow.
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Jason Bergeron
From:
Lake Charles, LA, USA
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Posted 17 Dec 2014 5:26 am
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Thanks b0b!
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Jason Bergeron
From:
Lake Charles, LA, USA
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Posted 17 Dec 2014 5:36 am
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| Joe Huggins wrote: |
OK. Here is the relationship that Lane was talking about.
Compare your: C Chart fret 3 & D Chart fret 5
C Chart fret 8 & D Chart fret 10
C Chart fret 11 & D Chart fret 13
Do you see the relationships? C to D is 2 frets. 3 to 5 is 2 frets. 8 to 10 is 2 frets. 11 to 13 is 2 frets.
All your charts should look about the same with just the fret numbers changed. |
What other chords are related like that besides C and D? E and F? Are there any B chords?
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