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Topic: How D'Ya Do - B11 - Audio ***** |
Doug Beaumier
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Northampton, MA
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Brian McGaughey
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Orcas Island, WA USA
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Posted 10 Dec 2014 9:00 pm |
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Nice playing. Good sounding recording.
What guitar is that? |
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Doug Beaumier
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Northampton, MA
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Ray Montee
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Portland, Oregon (deceased)
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Posted 10 Dec 2014 9:19 pm Another fine performance.................
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Very nicely done!
It's great to hear the depth of Bllth.......
Not only was the overall playing really great but also, the harmonics were an added surprise.
THANKS for sharing with your friends here at SGF. |
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Doug Beaumier
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Northampton, MA
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Frank James Pracher
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Michigan, USA
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Posted 10 Dec 2014 9:25 pm
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Sounds Great! Really looking forward to the new book.
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Roy Thomson
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Wolfville, Nova Scotia,Canada
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Posted 11 Dec 2014 5:50 am
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To my ears that is a true Hawaiian sounding Steel. And the man playing it has the right touch. Very nice Doug.
Roy
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Rick Collins
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Claremont , CA USA
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Posted 11 Dec 2014 11:16 am
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Really, really decent, Doug. I recognize it as the great Byrd's arrangement.
The staccato sound fits that tune well! |
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Jim Williams
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Meridian, Mississippi, USA - Home of Peavey!
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Posted 11 Dec 2014 1:07 pm
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Put me down for the new book, of course.
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Doug Beaumier
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Northampton, MA
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Posted 11 Dec 2014 2:20 pm
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Thanks all, yes, this is my humble tribute to Jerry's version. He recorded the song at least twice, and this version is the earlier one, 1958, I believe. I played it a little slower, with fewer embellishments, and a different solo. Jerry put so many complex fills and reverse slants in his songs, it's hard to copy, so I go for a more stripped down arrangement while trying to preserve the original feel of the song. Thanks again.
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Bosse Engzell
From:
�ppelbo, SWEDEN
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Posted 12 Dec 2014 3:14 am
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As Always very gooood in any ways. Book comming soooon!!
Bosse in Sweden |
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Earnest Bovine
From:
Los Angeles CA USA
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Posted 12 Dec 2014 9:46 am
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Chris Templeton
From:
The Green Mountain State
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Andy Volk
From:
Boston, MA
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Posted 12 Dec 2014 11:22 am
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All I can say, Doug, is every time you post something I ask myself: How'd You Do It!
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Doug Beaumier
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Northampton, MA
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Don Barnhardt
From:
North Carolina, USA
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Posted 19 Dec 2014 4:17 pm
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| Doug I always enjoy your contributions and this was no exception. I've thought about trying B-11 but never got a round tuit. How do you tune 8 string B-11. |
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Doug Beaumier
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Northampton, MA
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Don Barnhardt
From:
North Carolina, USA
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Posted 20 Dec 2014 8:11 pm
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| Doug.....Thanks a lot. My first reaction was what the hell is this but it makes sense now. I'm going to set up a guitar this week and getstarted. Looks real interesting. I'm a dyed in the wool C-6 man But I think this could be my alternative tuning. |
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Doug Beaumier
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Northampton, MA
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Earnest Bovine
From:
Los Angeles CA USA
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Posted 21 Dec 2014 1:17 pm
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| Doug Beaumier wrote: |
| B11 is a good tuning for certain Hawaiian songs and songs with a lot of 7th chords and 9th chords IMO. It's not as versatile as C6 ... |
I've never tried B11 tuning. It seems to me that it suffers from a great limitation in that the intervals in the basic 6 string B11
are all thirds and stacked thirds. It's not possible to play intervals of 6ths or 4ths, unless you slant the bar or use open strings.
So I think B11 would be good on a 2- or 3-neck guitar.
Doug B, on How D'Ya Do, all your intervals are 3rd and stacked 3rds except you did play
which must be open C# and A, with F# on the E string.
In your post here
http://bb.steelguitarforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=169521
all your examples are stacked thirds.
Now I see here
http://bb.steelguitarforum.com/userpix0812/387_B11Chart_1.jpg
that your 8 string tuning
adds two low strings which adds a lot but does not address the occasions where you might want to play a high melody note plus a note a 4th or 6th below. I might try a high D string instead, probably re-entrant. |
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Earnest Bovine
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Los Angeles CA USA
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Posted 21 Dec 2014 1:19 pm
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Did you ever notice that the common C6 setup of 50 years ago gives you these notes if you hit P7 and P8 together?
This A11 is the same as the common B11
but a whole step lower. Coincidence? I don't think so. |
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Doug Beaumier
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Northampton, MA
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Posted 21 Dec 2014 1:34 pm
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| ...must be open C# and A, with F# on the E string. |
Yes Doug, you're right. I played two open strings (C#, A) and a 'barred' note on string 1, fret 2 (high F#).
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Top 3 strings:
E ----2-----
C#----0-----
A-----0-----
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In the past I've described B11 tuning as "limited, but I was never able to explain why in terms of the theory, as you have done. I just knew that the large 7th and 9th chord built into in the tuning would not allow me to play a lot of other voicings that I was looking for.
Regarding C6 pedal steel, yes, it seems like most of the pedal changes mirrored the slants of non-pedal C6. It's been many years since I played C6 PSG, but as I recall, pedal 6 lowers the E, which mirrors a common slant on non-pedal C6, and pedal 5 lowers string 5, another slant on non-pedal for a 9th chord, I believe.
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Don Barnhardt
From:
North Carolina, USA
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Posted 21 Dec 2014 5:31 pm
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| Doug...Tried your B-11 today see whatyou mean by heavy on 7th. I did pick up on the A6. 6th tunings are my mainstay and obviously B-11 dosen't have the versatility but I'm still interested. |
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Doug Beaumier
From:
Northampton, MA
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Roger Shackelton
From:
MINNESOTA (deceased)
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Posted 22 Dec 2014 6:39 am
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Doug,
How about A B-11 8 or 10 string PSG setup.
Would this make the B-11 tuning more versatile?
Roger |
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