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Topic: which PSG is the most wanted? |
Gary Cooper
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Posted 3 Dec 2014 3:53 am |
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The Stradivarius is the most sought after violin. What is the most sought after PSG?
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Gary Cooper
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Atmore, Alabama
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Posted 3 Dec 2014 3:54 am
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My guess is a Franklin.
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Lane Gray
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Topeka, KS
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Posted 3 Dec 2014 4:14 am
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Probably Franklin, Anapeg and Fulawka in that order. Only Fulawka sells used for more than the cost of new (new Anapeg and Franklin no longer made. Paul Sr. raised his prices to reflect the used market).
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Frank Freniere
From:
The First Coast
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Posted 3 Dec 2014 4:55 am
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| From a cost, collectability, and scarcity standpoint, I'd say Bigsby. |
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Fred Thompson
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Zephyrhills, FL
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Posted 3 Dec 2014 5:02 am
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Zumsteel.
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Jack Stoner
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Kansas City, MO
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Posted 3 Dec 2014 5:26 am
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| Although I have one, the Franklin seems to be the one even more than the old Emmons PP's. |
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Dave Mudgett
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Central Pennsylvania and Gallatin, Tennessee
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Posted 3 Dec 2014 5:37 am
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There's no universally-acknowledged "best pedal steel guitar", as a Stradivarius is preferred for violin. IMO, it is folly to try to force a rank-ordering like this.
The evidence for my proposition is the fact that there are many who have strong preferences for several different models of steels, and will pay very high sums to express that preference. I prefer Zum and Franklin, but I know many who will put in their pitch for Emmons (P/P or Legrande), Mullen, and several others.
Maybe in fifty or hundred years or so, if pedal steel survives as a mainstream instrument that long, the filtering experience of history will declare such a thing. I think it would even be hard to argue that this is resolved for standard 6-string guitars yet, although the sunburst 58-60 Les Paul probably comes the closest to this for electrics, and an original 30s Martin D-28/45 come the closest for acoustics. |
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Frank Freniere
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The First Coast
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Posted 3 Dec 2014 9:49 am
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| There's no universally-acknowledged "best pedal steel guitar" ... |
The OP reads "most sought after," not "best." |
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Dave Mudgett
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Central Pennsylvania and Gallatin, Tennessee
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Posted 3 Dec 2014 11:47 am
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Whatever - he made the analogy to a Strad, which is generally acknowledged as "the most sought-after" because it is generally acknowledged as "the best".
Either way - IMO, neither exists in the PSG world. There are a lot of top brands, nothing has a corner on the market of "most desirable", "best", "most sought after", or any other label you want to put on it.
If you wanted to say, "most expensive", it would probably be Bigsby because of their extreme rarity, historical importance, and vintage collectibility. But I don't think most PSG players would be happy with a Bigsby, so it would certainly not qualify as "most sought after". |
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John Scanlon
From:
Jackson, Mississippi, USA
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Henry Matthews
From:
Texarkana, Ark USA
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Posted 3 Dec 2014 1:53 pm
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I think the most sought after is an Emmons wrap around D-10. Franklins come up for sale frequently but I've only seen one wrap around in the last 4 or 5 years.
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D-10 Magnum, 8 &5, dark rose color
D-10 1974 Emmons cut tail, fat back,rosewood, 8&5
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Robert Parent
From:
Gillette, WY
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Posted 3 Dec 2014 2:07 pm
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ZumSteel Hybrid would get my vote.
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Robert Parent
From:
Gillette, WY
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Posted 3 Dec 2014 2:07 pm
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ZumSteel Hybrid would get my vote.
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Jack Stoner
From:
Kansas City, MO
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Posted 3 Dec 2014 2:11 pm
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Franklin's are coming up for sale because of the inflated price they are going for. For years there wasn't a Franklin advertised on the forum for sale.
Mr Franklin told me if I ever wanted to sell mine to let him know as he "had a long list of people willing to pay premium price for a used Franklin". |
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Bill Lowe
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Connecticut
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Posted 3 Dec 2014 2:44 pm
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Franklin or Zum Hybrid. I cant remember the last time I saw a Zum Hybrid for sale.
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Skip Edwards
From:
LA,CA
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Posted 3 Dec 2014 2:50 pm
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| Seems to me the most sought-after is the one that weighs the least, and sounds the most like a p/p. |
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Bob Carlucci
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Candor, New York, USA
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Posted 3 Dec 2014 3:17 pm
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The most sought after pedal steel is ANY pro model thats CHEAP... Put a clean Emmons PP out there for $1,000 and watch what happens.. Or try listing a Bud Pro I for $500 and watch 3 dozen guys fight over it.. THATS "sought after"... bob
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John Booth
From:
Columbus Ohio, USA
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Posted 3 Dec 2014 5:07 pm
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For me it's "currently" the Pre-RP Mullin for sale here on this forum, but that'll change sooner or later.
BUT If I could have ANY (and afford it) it would be a nice shiny Franklin I spose.
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Greg Cutshaw
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Corry, PA, USA
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Posted 3 Dec 2014 5:30 pm
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| The super high priced boutique guitars are not highly sought after in terms of number of people seeking them. The Sho-Buds, Emmons, Zums, Carters and older MSA's are highly sought for their tremendous value! |
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Tom Gorr
From:
Three Hills, Alberta
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Posted 3 Dec 2014 5:56 pm
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| Yes, good older guitars at a good price can cause some strong words, but a Franklin or 65 Emmons at the same price would probably start a gunfight. |
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Tony Glassman
From:
The Great Northwest
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Posted 3 Dec 2014 6:30 pm
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Franklin, Emmons P/P, & Zums are all much sought after guitars. There is no one guitar that is the absolute, undisputed "holy grail".
That said, the "Stradivarius" of tone is the Push/Pull. Most coveted guitars, whether new or old, are ultimately described in terms of their "Emmons-like" sound capability.
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Doug Beaumier
From:
Northampton, MA
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Jan Viljoen
From:
Pretoria, South Africa
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Posted 4 Dec 2014 6:44 am
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This thread is interesting, in that the human ear can be tricked. Many musicians just don't know it.
This year this article was published where 10 violinists could not determine Stradivarius violins from others. Total 12 violins.
Add to that a luthier's intention when he builds a certain instrument with more bass or treble, and the table is decked for confusion.
Now how about different pickups and woods building a
pedal steel?
A while ago, there was a thread about a certain pedal steel which sounded better than others of the same make. That proves the uncertainty to identify a truly good instrument.
And then the investment value comes also into play.
The different sounds and tone are legion. What will blind tests reveal?
http://www.thestrad.com/cpt-latests/blind-tested-soloists-unable-to-tell-stradivarius-violins-from-modern-instruments/
Go folks, train your ears!
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Ross Shafer
From:
Petaluma, California
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Posted 4 Dec 2014 7:09 am
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Great post Jan!
"What will blind tests reveal?"
bravo! |
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Donny Hinson
From:
Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
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Posted 4 Dec 2014 8:50 am
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Personally, I don't think it's valid to compare what is a mostly mechanical contraption to an acoustic instrument that was made by hand, by true craftsmen, who never used power tools. There is a big difference between assembling parts and building all the components completely from scratch.  |
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