which copedant do you use?

Gary Cooper · From: Atmore, Alabama

Please identify which copedant you use?
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Paddy Long · From: Christchurch, New Zealand

My own !
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David L. Donald · From: Koh Samui Island, Thailand

Shobud started with an 8 + 8 Emmons, but both necks started changing.
Mostly to speed up minor key playing of larger chords. And relative minors.

Sierra S-14 arrive as Universal, but it is now changing to David Wright's Bb6 copedent.
After owning for it since ten years when I played it at ISGC.
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Richard Sinkler · From: aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana

I selected Hughey, but it is really just a Day setup. Over the years, mine and John's became fairly similar. I have never heard copedents referred to as Hughey, Green, Myrick, etc.. Just Emmons and Day for E9.
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David L. Donald · From: Koh Samui Island, Thailand

Newman would have been Newman Universal, most likely.
But if you don't know, then you wouldn't be clicking that.

I guess not enough use Reece's Bb6 alternate Uni to make it a listing.

I think Extended E9 12 should have had a listing.
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Jim Bates · From: Alvin, Texas, USA

I use my own. My first pedal steel came with the "Emmons" set up for the E9th, which I immediately changed to my version of an E13th. The A,B, and C, are same, but I set my knee levers based on my logic of combinations of pedals and levers.

Thanx,
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Thiel Hatt · From: Utah, USA

Newman, Hughey, Day and Myrick all used the same floor pedal arrangement. They had a variation in the knee levers, Ron Elliott also uses this same basic set up. I think the poll is rather restrictive since most of us kind of customize the knee lever arrangement to suit our personal needs, rather than exactly copy any of the players mentioned. Personally, I prefer the Day Copedent (with some modifications)

Jim Priebe · From: Queensland, Australia - R.I.P.

Same as Paddy ! ie. my own.
It suits me, my body and my music tastes.
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Lane Gray · From: Topeka, KS

I suspect my lever allotment is common (Es to F on LKL, Bs to A# on LKV, Es to D# on LKR, 1 to G/6 to F# on RKL 2 and 9 to C#), and I think of the pedals as Emmons (although I have 2 bonus pedals). I can't be bothered to look up what the names up top used, however.
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Geoff Noble · From: Scotland

I use this Universal copedant on a Carter S12,

http://www.steelguitar.com/sampleS12Tuning.html
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Jason Lynch · From: Essex, United Kingdom

Almost identical to David Hartley's.

Ian Rae · From: Redditch, England

There are so many personal variants that this is bound to be a bit of a cat-herding exercise.

In my view there are six basic copedents, Emmons or Day pedals each subdivided into three according to the E levers - Es on the left, Es on the right, or split somehow.

Then if you can honestly say "none of the above", you're truly "other".
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Roger Rettig · From: Naples, FL

My 'Day' set-up is very close to that of Tommy White's - ie: lowering the Bs on RKL, and the E-pulls on the left.
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Henry Matthews · From: Texarkana, Ark USA

I play Day setup just because it makes more sense to me. I learned on Emmons setup but after playing for a couple years, sat down at a Day guitar and it just all came together and made better sense. Mine is typical Day I guess with E lower and raise on Left Knee, B lowers on vertical. RKR has 2 lower and 9 lower. RKL raise 1 and 2 lowers 6th.

I too didn't know there was a Hughey, Myrick, Day and Newman Etc. As someone said above, floor pedals are the same, just a variation of knee levers. The knee levers don't make a lot of difference to me and can get used to about any variation easy but the floor pedals kill me when swapping.
I heard that J.D. plays DAY pedals and Emmons knees on left knee, that would be awkward. Someone correct me if I'm wrong please, just heard that.
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Roger Rettig · From: Naples, FL

Henry:

I know that lowering the Bs is more commonly done on LKV but I dislike the vertical lever and, as that change is very important to me, I like having it on RKL.

Then I saw that Tommy does the same - nice to know I'm in good company!
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Henry Matthews · From: Texarkana, Ark USA

Hey Roger, you in great company, Smile

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D-10 Magnum, 8 &5, dark rose color
D-10 1974 Emmons cut tail, fat back,rosewood, 8&5
Nashville 112 amp, Fishman Loudbox Performer amp, Hilton pedal, Goodrich pedal,BJS bar, Kyser picks, Live steel Strings. No effects, doodads or stomp boxes.

Jack Aldrich · From: Washington, USA

I said "Emmons", which is true for my E9 neck, but I have my own, modified Emmons copedant for my C6 neck. I moved the D pedal changes to my RKR and installed a C - C# raise on both the C strings. The D & E pedals give me the first inversion of the C chord at the 3rd fret (A6 open) with an E on the top (My 3rd string is set at D). With the 2nd inversion at the 7th fret (actually a C7) this give me the full range of inversion, and makes it easy for me to play "Panhandle Rag", for instance.
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Richard Sinkler · From: aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana

I don't know when it changed, but Since I started 43 years ago, every time I and other players would talk about "Emmons" and "Day" setups, it was strictly in reference to where the A & C pedals were positioned. Had nothing to do with what knee lever changes were where.When just talking about E9 tunings, in my books, there is still Only Emmons, Day and the occasional player who does not use a C pedal. The E9/B6 universal is still just a variation on the E9 tuning. When talking to Jeff Newman about his Uni, I always heard him refer to his copedent as a "Day" pedal setup.
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Roger Rettig · From: Naples, FL

Richard: I don't think it has changed. I was a bit bemused by the number of options in this poll, too.

'Day' and 'Emmons' is what it boils down to (or, to put it another way - 'right' and 'wrong'... Very Happy

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Richard Sinkler · From: aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana

Henry... I believe you are correct about Jay Dee. I won't swear to it, but I was told the same thing. And, I have watched him from maybe ten feet away, and watching his legt leg, it makes my leg and groin hurt just watching him.

I am the opposite of you when it comes to sitting in on an Emmons setup guitar (I play Day too). As long as the two E string levers are on the left knee, I can play it with about ten minutes of adjustment time. Put them on the right knee and it's a no-go for me.
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Alan Brookes · From: Brummy living in Southern California

I'm assuming that this post is intented to be on the E9 neck, though it doesn't specify that. I voted for "Emmons" but in fact I use the C6 neck a lot more than the E9 neck.

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