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Topic: Sho-Bud noise idea?? fixed!!!! Check out my post!! |
Jason Putnam
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Tennessee, USA
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Posted 13 Nov 2014 11:45 am |
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I have an idea how to stop the clacking pedal noise when the cross shaft hits the stop. Wanted to get opinions before I give it a try. I thought if I could find some large heat shrink tubing like you put over wires and put it around the piece where the pedal rods connect it would dampen the noise. Just heat it around there, then poke out the holes where the pedal rods hook in. What do you think?
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1967 Emmons Bolt On, 1995 Mullen PRP 3x5,Nashville 112, JOYO Digital Delay, Goodrich Volume Pedal, Livesteel Strings
Last edited by Jason Putnam on 14 Nov 2014 2:46 pm; edited 2 times in total |
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Lane Gray
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Topeka, KS
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Posted 13 Nov 2014 12:56 pm
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Not gonna stop the noise because the noise comes from a different place. MSA (the old ones, don't know about the new ones) used a nylon "top hat" on the screw of the stop. If the clack comes when the pedal hits the stop, that's what you need.
Your idea would only affect a noise if there was slack between pedal rod and the pull on the shaft. But, since the pedal weighs a few ounces and has a mechanical advantage, that connection is always under a load: it was my turn to pay the gravity bill this year.
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Richard Sinkler
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aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana
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Posted 13 Nov 2014 2:17 pm
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I rebuilt a Super-Pro one time. I put heat shrink on all the rods from just about the bell crank to almost where it went into the changer. Quieted it down quite a bit. But there will still be some noise. Just the banging of the rods together get a little quieter. And honestly, the noise wasn't that awful prior to me doing it.
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Carter D10 8p/8k, Dekley S10 3p/4k C6 setup,Regal RD40 Dobro, Recording King Professional Dobro, NV400, NV112,Ibanez Gio guitar, Epiphone SG Special (open D slide guitar) . Playing for 54 years and still counting. |
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John De Maille
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On a Mountain in Upstate Halcottsville, N.Y.
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Posted 13 Nov 2014 3:00 pm
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| Joe Wright's Sierra has a shrink type wrap on the undercarriage pull rods and it's very quiet with no amplification. I think you're on to something good. |
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Jason Putnam
From:
Tennessee, USA
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Posted 14 Nov 2014 7:10 am
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This is the piece I was talking about wrapping in the heat shrink tubing. It should dampen the sound when it hits the stop screw.
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1967 Emmons Bolt On, 1995 Mullen PRP 3x5,Nashville 112, JOYO Digital Delay, Goodrich Volume Pedal, Livesteel Strings |
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Lane Gray
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Topeka, KS
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Posted 14 Nov 2014 7:17 am
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Right on. That should do it.
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2 pedal steels, a lapStrat, and an 8-string Dobro (and 3 ukes)
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mike nolan
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Forest Hills, NY USA
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Posted 14 Nov 2014 11:18 am
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| The heat shrink is going to have a little give to it.... possibly sending you on micro tuning wild goose chases. One of my Sho~Buds has had the metal stop screws replaced with nylon... works. |
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John Billings
From:
Ohio, USA
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Posted 14 Nov 2014 1:57 pm
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| Nylon screw? |
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Jason Putnam
From:
Tennessee, USA
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Posted 14 Nov 2014 2:45 pm
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Works like a charm! No more metal noises here! Anyone with a ShoBud should give this a try!!
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1967 Emmons Bolt On, 1995 Mullen PRP 3x5,Nashville 112, JOYO Digital Delay, Goodrich Volume Pedal, Livesteel Strings |
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mike nolan
From:
Forest Hills, NY USA
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Posted 14 Nov 2014 5:54 pm
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Yes John,
Like this
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John Billings
From:
Ohio, USA
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Posted 14 Nov 2014 5:59 pm
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| Eggs Ackley! And you can put the screw in upside down to have a larger bearing area. The screws are way longer than they have to be! |
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Jon Light
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Saugerties, NY
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Posted 14 Nov 2014 6:04 pm
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| Mike---you have no concern about the strength of the threads of that nylon screw? |
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mike nolan
From:
Forest Hills, NY USA
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Posted 14 Nov 2014 7:31 pm
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Jon,
This guitar was like this when I bought it... and I have hundreds of studio/gig hours on it with no problems. I was a bit concerned when I first saw the nylon stop screws, but decided to see how they worked. |
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Tom Wolverton
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Carpinteria, CA
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Posted 14 Nov 2014 10:25 pm
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I think I have seen metal machine screws (bolts) with nylon or delrin tips for just this sort of thing.
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John Billings
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Ohio, USA
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Posted 15 Nov 2014 6:53 am
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Tom,
I think you can but those tips separately. But nylon screws will also work. |
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Edward Rhea
From:
Medford Oklahoma, USA
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Posted 15 Nov 2014 8:08 am
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Nice job, Jason!
Was the clanking noise bleeding into your amp? I haven't noticed any such noise, unless I'm unplugged or amp is turned down a great deal.
Also, the nylon screws do look like a good idea-r as well.
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Richard Sinkler
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aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana
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Posted 15 Nov 2014 10:41 am
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The only thing I would worry about the heat shrink is, after time, the stop screw might wear a hole in the wrap and you would get metal to metal again. Of course, you just replace it. Looks like a good idea.
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Carter D10 8p/8k, Dekley S10 3p/4k C6 setup,Regal RD40 Dobro, Recording King Professional Dobro, NV400, NV112,Ibanez Gio guitar, Epiphone SG Special (open D slide guitar) . Playing for 54 years and still counting. |
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Jason Putnam
From:
Tennessee, USA
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Posted 15 Nov 2014 1:34 pm
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Doesn't come through the amp. But I play at home at low volume and it was annoying me!!!
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1967 Emmons Bolt On, 1995 Mullen PRP 3x5,Nashville 112, JOYO Digital Delay, Goodrich Volume Pedal, Livesteel Strings |
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