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Bengt Erlandsen

 

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Brekstad, NORWAY
Post  Posted 28 Oct 2014 12:46 am    
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My C6 RKL lower 3rd string C - B as most other C6 do.
Is there any reason I cant/shouldnt lower 9th string F - E at the same time on RKL ?

I find myself wanting to hear that 9th string go F - E when playing strings 9 7 4 ( F C A ) to ( E C A )

Having that E note on the 9th string would be totally ok for the C chord as well.

I dont see any immediate conflicts with the pedals but maybe some others can share some thoughts about lowering 9 F-E and 3 C-B at the same time on RKL.

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Lane Gray


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Topeka, KS
Post  Posted 28 Oct 2014 2:32 am    
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Buddy's 9th pedal used to drop 9 to E and 10 to A.
I don't know that I'd see a conflict, but in the words of Louis Jordan, it's early in the morning.
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Paul Crawford


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Orlando, Fl
Post  Posted 28 Oct 2014 9:04 pm    
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That change is usually a part of P8 and I use that voicing on a regular basis. Not too sure I'd want it bad enough to put it on a knee as well. P8 with RKR is kind of a bread and butter automatic for me.

But why not try it. If you find something cool that opens up let us know.
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Lane Gray


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Post  Posted 29 Oct 2014 4:04 am    
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Paul, Buddy had Boowah on , with the 7th string raise. P9 was the same without the 7th string raise. Must have mattered to him....
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Bengt Erlandsen

 

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Brekstad, NORWAY
Post  Posted 29 Oct 2014 5:50 am    
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My P8 does lower 9th string F-E but it also raises the 7th string C-C# and I find that the 7th string raise at same time give me a major voicing when I need a minor. Thats why Im trying find a way around it without changing the original P8.

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Earnest Bovine


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Los Angeles CA USA
Post  Posted 29 Oct 2014 7:28 am    
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You would lose things like 9b5 (+11) with root on the bottom.
So you could no longer play this:

without re-attacking the G note.
You would have to play the G on the raised A string instead of the lowered C string.
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Bengt Erlandsen

 

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Brekstad, NORWAY
Post  Posted 31 Oct 2014 1:44 pm    
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Id be able play the Db9b5 on strings 10 9 7 6 4 w P5 and LKL A-Ab.
Cmaj9 would be on same strings w P4+P5 (My P4 raise 7 and 3 to C#)
The transition from Db9b5 to Cmaj9 does not feel comfortable since my 4th string A-Ab goes LKL while A-A# go LKR. If those knee levers was the other way around the move would be no trouble.

That same move Db9b5 to Cmaj9 would be a breeze to play on my ExtE9 7+7 tho.

I dont go into 5 note chord voicings on the steel guitar much. 4 note voicings is enough to keep track on for me but it was a nice study to see where I could find those 2 chords Smile

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Earnest Bovine


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Post  Posted 1 Nov 2014 7:22 am    
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Bengt Erlandsen wrote:
Id be able play the Db9b5 on strings 10 9 7 6 4 w P5 and LKL A-Ab.
Cmaj9 would be on same strings w P4+P5 (My P4 raise 7 and 3 to C#)
The transition from Db9b5 to Cmaj9 does not feel comfortable since my 4th string A-Ab goes LKL while A-A# go LKR. If those knee levers was the other way around the move would be no trouble.


Very cool. I never would have thought of doing that.

Bengt Erlandsen wrote:

That same move Db9b5 to Cmaj9 would be a breeze to play on my ExtE9 7+7 tho.

Yes, same here; that's why I thought of it. I use it on ext E9.

Bengt Erlandsen wrote:

I dont go into 5 note chord voicings on the steel guitar much. 4 note voicings is enough to keep track on for me but it was a nice study to see where I could find those 2 chords

If you don't play string 9 and string 3 at the same time, then those two pulls can't interfere with each other.
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