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Topic: 1 & 7 strings |
Antolina
From:
Dunkirk NY
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Posted 22 Oct 2014 2:12 pm |
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Hi all,
I took and switched to the "Day" copedant today and to my surprise I found the 1 & 7 strings hooked up but going nowhere.
My question is what is the the intended use and what can I expect to gain by hooking them back up again?
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Richard Sinkler
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aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana
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Posted 22 Oct 2014 3:48 pm
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You aren't really telling us anything to be able to help you. Did you move those changes to a different lever? Give us some better info an we should be able to help.
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Antolina
From:
Dunkirk NY
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Posted 22 Oct 2014 4:18 pm
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My apologies.
I haven't moved anything. The rods to the strings I mentioned are in place but that's it.No levers, nothing else
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Paul Sutherland
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Placerville, California
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Posted 22 Oct 2014 4:25 pm
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Switching from the Emmons to the Day floor pedal set up has nothing to do with a lever connected to strings 1 & 7.
If the lever still has the rods connected for strings one and seven, but they do nothing, you probably just need to tune those strings with the lever at the changer end of the guitar. It is possible that someone loosened a collar or two underneath, in which case you'll have to ask a Sho-Bud expert what to do.
The most common change for strings 1 and 7 on older steels, which your Sho-Bud appears to be, is to raise both strings a half tone. It's a real easy change for the steel. But you could raise each of those strings, or just one, a full tone.
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Antolina
From:
Dunkirk NY
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Posted 22 Oct 2014 4:32 pm
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I kinda did say no levers look back and see 
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Paul Sutherland
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Placerville, California
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Posted 22 Oct 2014 4:44 pm
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You're on your own. Good luck.
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Antolina
From:
Dunkirk NY
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Posted 22 Oct 2014 4:59 pm
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Thanks.
Please close this thread. I'm sorry I asked.
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John Scanlon
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Jackson, Mississippi, USA
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Posted 22 Oct 2014 6:57 pm Re: 1 & 7 strings
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. . . to my surprise I found the 1 & 7 strings hooked up but going nowhere.
My question is what is the the intended use and what can I expect to gain by hooking them back up again? |
I'm not following, either. You say you found them hooked up, but then ask what you gain if you hook them back up again. Are they hooked up or not, and if so, what is it that they are hooked up to, esp. since your guitar has no levers.
I'm assuming this is an E9 S-10 guitar. Pictures would do this thread a world of good.
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Antolina
From:
Dunkirk NY
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Posted 22 Oct 2014 7:12 pm
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I'm sorry. Let me try this again.
The strings I'm talking about are already connected to the guitar but without a lever to move them. I can see them firmly in place but the lever is missing.
All I asked is what happens if I install a lever and adjust a half tone up?
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Marrs 3+4
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Lane Gray
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Topeka, KS
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Posted 22 Oct 2014 7:39 pm
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So you have a cross shaft, bellcranks (or racks, if an old Bud) and pull rods, but no lever to move these pulls?
Mickey Adams and Buck Reid raise to F#, Brumley raised to G.
If it were MY guitar, I'd install the missing lever and move 7 raise to 6 lower.
BUT, I believe in giving a fair shot to what you have. I'd search the Tablature section for Brumley tab.
And I'll ask for forbearance for those who got frustrated with your posts. Imprecise language, combined with a lack of pics, will have people talking about two different things. Which is frustrating for all involved.
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Antolina
From:
Dunkirk NY
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Posted 22 Oct 2014 7:42 pm
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Thanks a lot Lane. 
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Richard Sinkler
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Posted 22 Oct 2014 7:55 pm
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To answer your original question, it sounds like someone removed the lever at some point. It would be worth getting one to replace it. If they only raise a half step, which you are thinking, that change from F# to G gives you the 7th of the A chord with the A&B pedals down. There are some bluesey licks with that lever pulling the F# to G. You could use the G notes to give a minor with no pedals. I pretty much just use it for the 7th tones. It's probably the least useful lever on my guitar, although I do use it, more for licks than chords.
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Antolina
From:
Dunkirk NY
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Posted 22 Oct 2014 9:03 pm
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Thank you Richard. I appreciate your visiting the topic again.
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Sho~Bud 6139 3+3
Marrs 3+4
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Tony Prior
From:
Charlotte NC
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Posted 23 Oct 2014 6:42 am
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a photo would help ! Like they say..one photo answers a thousand questions.
a few photo's would be even better !
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Paul Crawford
From:
Orlando, Fl
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Posted 28 Oct 2014 8:16 pm
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| One combination I haven't seen suggested. If you already have a 6th string lower, then I might go with a 7th string lower and a 1st string raise. You could also use the 7th string lower on the same lever as the 6th string lower by going a full tone lower on 6 and picking up the 7th string lower as the split point. I've got that on one of my guitars and love the possibilities. |
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Billy Easton
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Nashville, TN USA
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Posted 29 Oct 2014 12:16 pm
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Whoa....
Have you considered the possibility that they are compensators? They would not have a lever, but connected via a bell crank to either your A or B pedal....
They are there to help the guitar play in tune with pedals up and pedals down. Myself and many others have these installed on their guitars.
Billy Easton
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