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Topic: What are RODS made of.... |
Scott Henderson
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Camdenton, Missouri, USA
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Posted 13 Oct 2014 8:25 am |
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Does anyone know what guage or other measurement rods are made of?
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Keith Hilton
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248 Laurel Road Ozark, Missouri 65721
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Posted 13 Oct 2014 8:37 am
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| Scotty, I am guessing "Drill Rod". It comes in common dimensions. You can look the dimensions of drill rod up on Google. At Hilton Electronics when we want a round length of metal, and draw up engineering print, we specify drill rod. The last time we did that, was in our new Pro Guitar pedal for the hinge tensioning mechanism. Most full line hardware stores carry drill rod. Hope this information helps. |
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Scott Henderson
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Camdenton, Missouri, USA
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Posted 13 Oct 2014 9:36 am
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It does help...thanks Keith. So I measure rod I had here and they were approximately 1/8" is that how drill rod is measure or is it in guages....(i.e. 10 guage 12 guage.....)
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Richard Sinkler
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aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana
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Posted 13 Oct 2014 10:12 am
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If you buy welding rod, which is cheap enough, it comes in diameters of different sizes. I use 3/32" diameter stainless welding rod when making rods for my Carter.
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chris ivey
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california (deceased)
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Posted 13 Oct 2014 11:06 am
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| i've always used 1/8 inch welding rod...brass or otherwise...for a p/p. |
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Lane Gray
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Topeka, KS
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Posted 13 Oct 2014 11:50 am
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MSA and Dekley used stainless welding rod. Your Mullen would have used a smaller aluminum rod, but I don't recall the size (3/32?)
I don't recall what you have besides Mullen and Dekley (I thought I was doing good remembering two of them). Duh, it says JCH in your sig. They'll be aluminum and smaller than 1/8. If nobody answers shortly, I'd just take a rod to O'Reilly and they'll put their micrometer to it.
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Keith Hilton
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248 Laurel Road Ozark, Missouri 65721
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Posted 13 Oct 2014 5:05 pm
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| Sorry Scotty, I think I am wrong. Drill rod will rust, so you don't want that. The stainless steel welding rod sounds like the stuff you need. Might have to go to a welding supply to get it. |
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Jim Palenscar
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Oceanside, Calif, USA
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Posted 14 Oct 2014 6:50 am
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| Dekley's use 1/8" SS rod- welding rod is fine |
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John Billings
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Ohio, USA
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Posted 14 Oct 2014 7:53 am
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| We used SS welding rod at Performance. |
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Richard Sinkler
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aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana
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Posted 14 Oct 2014 2:08 pm
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| Keith Hilton wrote: |
| Sorry Scotty, I think I am wrong. Drill rod will rust, so you don't want that. The stainless steel welding rod sounds like the stuff you need. Might have to go to a welding supply to get it. |
I bought it, fairly cheaply, through Amazon. You get it quick, for not much money, and you don't have to leave the house.
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Michael Yahl
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Troy, Texas!
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Posted 14 Oct 2014 2:36 pm
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I have all the sizes in stock and they're threaded!
http://www.psgparts.com/Pull-Rods_c18.htm
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Donny Hinson
From:
Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
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Posted 14 Oct 2014 3:11 pm
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In an all-pull guitar, the pedal tuning is managed by the length of the pull rods, so using aluminum for pull rods probably isn't a good idea, especially on the E9th, where rods are normally longer. You see, aluminum expands and contracts about three times as much as stainless steel with temperature changes, and will therefore offer less stable tuning than stainless steel when exposed to any temperature changes.
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Richard Sinkler
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Posted 14 Oct 2014 5:12 pm
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I agree with Donny. I would only use stainless myself.
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Richard Sinkler
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Posted 14 Oct 2014 5:15 pm
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And there uou have it. A great source if you don't want to do it youself.
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Jack Strayhorn
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Winston-Salem, NC
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Posted 15 Oct 2014 9:47 am
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| The Emmmons company used a material called nickel-ply for many years. It had a brighter finish and was easier to cut threads. When this became unavailable we changed to stainless welding rod. I believe the LeGrande's used 3/32" and original's used 1/8". Same material, different size, also used for pedal rods. The original pedal rods were of a larger diameter than the later models and the hook was cut down before bending and the threads were roll-threaded 10-32 with a die chaser. Eventually had to change to welding rod, smaller diameter and used a cut thread of 8-32. |
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chris ivey
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california (deceased)
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Posted 15 Oct 2014 1:30 pm
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| my old zum has pull rods that are very light, dull and soft so i figure they are aluminum. never had a tuning problem in 30 years. temps range from over 100 to under freezing in my picking area. |
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Bobby D. Jones
From:
West Virginia, USA
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Posted 16 Oct 2014 9:00 pm What are rods made out of - - - -
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| Most factory rods are Stainless Steel of some type. I order Stainless Rod Stock from Fasten-All at our local store.. They have all sizes including the 7/64 inch used on Emmons steels. Tell them what length you want. It comes standard in 20 foot lengths. Very high shipping cost. I have them to cut the rods into 36 inch lengths which gives you a cheaper packing and shipping rate. 5-40 threads are the size thread I use fore more precise tuning. |
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Ray Minich
From:
Bradford, Pa. Frozen Tundra
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Posted 18 Oct 2014 1:57 pm
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Stainless steel rod, can be bought at Grainger, MSC, McMaster Carr (where I got my batch). Get the right diameter for the thread you intend to cut on the end of it. Fairly inexpensive.
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