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Jeff Metz Jr.


From:
York, Pennsylvania, USA
Post  Posted 21 Aug 2014 11:05 pm    
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I have been confused by this little tidbit and I was hoping somebody can clear it up for me.
What exactly is being described here....

"New Strings
Here are some tips that might be helpful when replacing new
strings. The number 1
problem many players
encounter is that annoying
third E9th string
G#. Breaking it when
installed can be eliminated
if put on properly.
When putting this string
on attach it to the
changer and cut it when
it extends approximately
2 inches beyond the key
head. Put the string
through the string post
hole and wind 2 turns toward
the back side of guitar
and then let the string
lap over itself toward the
front side of guitar and
continue winding until you
have it to pitch. Letting
the string lap over itself
will cause the string to
break as that small of string will not bend over that small of a
radius without breaking. You should end up having the string
as shown in the picture at the right. With larger strings you
should not experience this problem. Larger strings such as 9
and 10 only require 0ne or two turns to work properly without
slipping."

Thank you!
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Tim Vandeville


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Wisconsin, USA
Post  Posted 22 Aug 2014 3:14 am    
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I see where the confusion is..the directions say to lap the string over itself and then it says letting the string lap over itself will cause it to break. I think they forgot to put the word NOT in there so it probabaly should read "Not letting the string lap over itself will cause....etc"
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Les Cargill

 

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Oklahoma City, Ok, USA
Post  Posted 22 Aug 2014 4:37 am    
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Is this what they are trying to get at?

http://uncletim.com/Newsletter/how-to-string-a-guitar.htm
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Brint Hannay

 

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Maryland, USA
Post  Posted 22 Aug 2014 6:28 am    
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Not sure what they mean to say--somebody really needs to edit that! Maybe the key concept is winding two turns before lapping over; that way the string isn't bending over the small radius of only one thickness of string.

FWIW I always wind the string on just as they describe, and I never have the string break at the tuning post.
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Larry Bressington

 

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Nebraska
Post  Posted 25 Aug 2014 7:18 pm    
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At the end of the day, you don't want the string to be over the hole when it's tuned up. You want the string to be wrapping towards the back of the guitar with plenty of wraps on the tuning post.

The string will break easy if he is parked over the hole when tuned to tension.
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Jeff Metz Jr.


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York, Pennsylvania, USA
Post  Posted 25 Aug 2014 9:14 pm    
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That last post really cleared it up! Its not mean to "break" over the hole as its too sharp an angle.
I get it now.
Thanks
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Jeff Metz Jr.


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York, Pennsylvania, USA
Post  Posted 25 Aug 2014 9:14 pm    
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That last post really cleared it up! Its not mean to "break" over the hole as its too sharp an angle.
I get it now.
Thanks
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Mike Mantey


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Eastern Colorado, USA
Post  Posted 26 Aug 2014 7:41 am    
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Yes we need to fix that wording. And actually I go 4 turns to the back of the guitar, and then lap over the coils to the front and continue to wrap to pitch (which is about another five turns) Works well for us.

Our manual needs some attention, we will be working on that as soon as we can. Don't hesitate to ask any questions.

Thank You,

Mike
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chris ivey


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california (deceased)
Post  Posted 26 Aug 2014 11:01 am    
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boy, that's alot of wraps. course you're an expert!
i wrap once and cross over and do two or three more.
works fine for me.
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John Peay


From:
Cumming, Georgia USA
Post  Posted 26 Aug 2014 11:56 am    
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chris ivey wrote:
i wrap once and cross over and do two or three more. works fine for me.


I've been doing as Chris does....I think from now on I'm going "2 wraps, cross over, 4-5 more" at least with the smaller gauges
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Jeff Metz Jr.


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York, Pennsylvania, USA
Post  Posted 26 Aug 2014 10:41 pm    
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I just kept thinking as "the back" of the guitar being where the nylon tuners are. I now understand that that would be the side.
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Donny Hinson

 

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Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
Post  Posted 27 Aug 2014 7:41 am    
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I always thought that the "back" of the guitar is where you're sitting?
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Dick Sexton


From:
Greenville, Ohio
Post  Posted 27 Aug 2014 8:08 am     Hummm...
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Jeff it's your steel and the truth is, unless you are trying to talk to someone else about it. You can call it what ever you want. I call mine, the changer end, key head end, front and back. Seems I read that somewhere once. But, I could just as easy called it anything I want
to, potaaatoes, potauutoes...

Wrap... I, like Chris, use the one wrap crossover method.
I once heard, the one wrap on the beginning side locks against the string through the hole with the wraps on the finish side. It must work, I've never broken a string at the tuner or nut. Others haven't been so lucky, I hear.
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Pete Burak

 

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Portland, OR USA
Post  Posted 27 Aug 2014 8:16 am    
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'Sounds like they need to put up a Video of how to do it.
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Dustin Rigsby


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Parts Unknown, Ohio
Post  Posted 27 Aug 2014 2:15 pm     Jeff did already !
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When I got my carter starter 10 years ago there was a video with it that had Jeff Newman giving tips for beginners. That was one of the tips. I've only broken two 3rd strings since then. YMMV
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Roger Francis

 

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kokomo,Indiana, USA
Post  Posted 28 Aug 2014 5:02 pm    
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Ive been doing like Chris for a long time.
When puting the string on though i start at the key end of the guitar then after i cross the the wrap over i hook the ball in place at the changer then tighten
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Mike Mantey


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Eastern Colorado, USA
Post  Posted 2 Sep 2014 7:06 am    
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I am only talking about the 3rd string. The rest I do the one or two and lap over method as well.

The back to me is the back of the guitar. (where you sit)
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