Author |
Topic: Sdf Tone Bars |
Steven Gunder
From: TOPEKA,KS.
|
Posted 6 Aug 2014 12:11 pm
|
|
STEVE GUNDER'S SPECIALTY DESIGN AND FABRICATION
TOPEKA, KS 785-608-0207 stevescg82@aol.com
THE LASTEST IN HAAS IN CNC MACHINING
SDF TONE BARS
OVER 50 BARS IN STOCK
FREE SHIPPING IN USA
TITANIUM G6 -- $110.00 Polished
STAINLESS 17-4 -- #65.00 Polished
BRASS 464 -- $65.00 Polished or Plated with
Hard Chrome
STEEL (STRESSED) 1144 $60.00 Hard Chromed
ALUMINUM 7075 T6 $60.00 Polished & Anodized
Standard Bars: 3.25" and 3.75" in length
7/8" and 1.00" in diameter
ALL BARS ARE VIBRATION STRESSED RELIEVED
-----------------------------------------------------
CUSTOM BARS, I WILL MAKE WHAT YOU WANT
TAPERED BARS, NO PROBLEM
POWDER COATED BARS, ADD $8.00 PER BAR
LET ME QUOTE YOUR CUSTOM BARS
[/b] |
|
|
|
Lane Gray
From: Topeka, KS
|
Posted 6 Aug 2014 2:16 pm
|
|
He brought those over to me last week.
The Ti surprised me with its tone, and it wasn't polished (maybe Monday I can try a polished one- HINT)
The brass is an extra-hard alloy (or maybe it gets hard from the treatment), and sounds REALLY good: can't wait to try the chromed brass.
The aluminum has a decent tone, and (as you'd expect) a shorter sustain. I plan to try it with my Bradshaw/Dunlop reso pedal, since TIFKAD¹ doesn't sustain like a steel.
¹That Instrument Formerly Known As Dobro _________________ 2 pedal steels, a lapStrat, and an 8-string Dobro (and 3 ukes)
More amps than guitars, and not many effects |
|
|
|
Carl Williams
From: Oklahoma
|
Posted 6 Aug 2014 2:52 pm
|
|
Steven, it would help if you could post some pictures of the finished product. Good luck...Carl |
|
|
|
Lane Gray
From: Topeka, KS
|
Posted 6 Aug 2014 2:57 pm
|
|
Steve, if you bring some Monday, I'll snap some pics _________________ 2 pedal steels, a lapStrat, and an 8-string Dobro (and 3 ukes)
More amps than guitars, and not many effects |
|
|
|
Steven Gunder
From: TOPEKA,KS.
|
Posted 8 Aug 2014 10:30 am Sdf Bars
|
|
TTT |
|
|
|
Steven Gunder
From: TOPEKA,KS.
|
Posted 14 Aug 2014 7:47 am sdf tone bars
|
|
TTT |
|
|
|
Steven Gunder
From: TOPEKA,KS.
|
Posted 20 Aug 2014 7:16 am Sdf Tone Bars
|
|
TTT |
|
|
|
Dave Kolars
From: DeKalb, Illinois, USA
|
Posted 21 Aug 2014 10:29 am
|
|
Can you list the weights of the various bars? Thanks! DK _________________ We're all so caught up in wanting to sound different, wanting to sound original-- but we should stop trying so hard. We're all unique at birth. We'll come out sounding original without giving it a thought. (Feet Rogers) |
|
|
|
Steven Gunder
From: TOPEKA,KS.
|
Posted 22 Aug 2014 11:20 am sdf tone bars
|
|
Picture of standard bars, left to right:
1) Aluminum
2) Stainless Steel
3) Hard Chromed Brass
4) Polished Brass
5) Hard Chromed Steel
6) Titanium
7) Powder Coat Steel
8) Bright Chrome Steel
Weights
Aluminum - 3 3/8 X 7/8 (2.8 oz)
3 3/8 X 1 (3.9 oz)
3 3/4 X 7/8 (3.4 oz)
3 3/4 X 1 (4.3 oz)
Stainless Steel - 3 3/8 X 7/8 (8.3 oz)
3 3/8 X 1 (N/A)
3 3/4 X 7/8 (9.7 oz)
3 3/4 X 1 (N/A)
Titanium - 3 3/8 X 7/8 (4.6 oz)
3 3/8 X 1 (6.2 oz)
3 3/4 X 7/8 (5.5 oz)
3 3/4 X 1 (7.1 oz)
Brass - 3 3/8 X 7/8 (9.0)
3 3/8 X 1 (N/A) Add 2 Tenths
3 3/4 X 7/8 (10.4) if Plated
3 3/4 X 1 (10.7)
Powder Coat Steel - 3 3/8 X 7/8 (8.6 oz)
3 3/8 X 1 (N/A)
Hard Chrome Steel - 3 3/8 X 7/8 (8.5)
3 3/8 X 1 (N/A)
3 3/4 X 7/8 (9.1)
3 3/4 X 1 (N/A)
All N/A Weights will be available soon.
Watch for pics of some of my custom bars. |
|
|
|
David Mason
From: Cambridge, MD, USA
|
Posted 23 Aug 2014 4:24 pm
|
|
Several weeks back, I spied some rather odd "Miron" bars on E-bay - I "had" to buy the Epiphone steel to get the bars!
A few people asked me if they could get one of them, but I need to keep a few of them, I think there are a few refinements to the design that I want to try. But I sold my soul to the dentist (temporarily) and until I pay it off I don't really have the resources for prototyping... anyway, Mr. Gunder can make bars like these. If you've ever tried to search out an old grooved Carter bar, you know how hard that is. I could get these specs to Mr. Gunter, or even my (so far untested) newer idea. I just can't dig in yet, I've been out-of-debt since 1999 or so, and it JUST BUGS ME to owe anybody so the tooth fairy goes first. |
|
|
|
Lane Gray
From: Topeka, KS
|
Posted 25 Aug 2014 11:46 am
|
|
I'm getting ready to video a shootout/demo of six of his bars, he brought me some over and I'm quite impressed. I like three of the six a bit better than the others, but I no longer have use for the rest of my collection (Except my one sitar bar: I may ask for one of those in either the stainless or the hard chrome-plated brass).
These are NICE bars _________________ 2 pedal steels, a lapStrat, and an 8-string Dobro (and 3 ukes)
More amps than guitars, and not many effects |
|
|
|
Lane Gray
From: Topeka, KS
|
Posted 26 Aug 2014 3:11 am
|
|
I tried out several yesterday and made a video. As Donny pointed out, there wasn't much difference to the ears. But there was to the PLAYER.
I sounded like me on 5 out of 6, and almost sounded like me on the anodized Al.
BUT, it was easier and more pleasant to sound like me with those bars than the Ernie Ball and Jim Dunlops I HAD been using. _________________ 2 pedal steels, a lapStrat, and an 8-string Dobro (and 3 ukes)
More amps than guitars, and not many effects |
|
|
|
Steven Gunder
From: TOPEKA,KS.
|
Posted 15 Sep 2014 7:31 am sdf tone bars
|
|
ttt |
|
|
|
Lane Gray
From: Topeka, KS
|
Posted 17 Sep 2014 11:06 am
|
|
I tried out the powder coated one the other day, I liked it. Nice and slick, good tone.
Also used it on a Kay M-1 _________________ 2 pedal steels, a lapStrat, and an 8-string Dobro (and 3 ukes)
More amps than guitars, and not many effects |
|
|
|
Lane Gray
From: Topeka, KS
|
Posted 24 Sep 2014 9:50 am
|
|
I A/Bd the powder coat against the rest of the family at the gig I played last Saturday.
It has a tone similar to the chromed brass, and felt the slickest of all of them.
When I heard about powder coated bars, I thought the very idea was silly. But it works well. It's pretty cool. _________________ 2 pedal steels, a lapStrat, and an 8-string Dobro (and 3 ukes)
More amps than guitars, and not many effects |
|
|
|
Dave Kolars
From: DeKalb, Illinois, USA
|
Posted 25 Sep 2014 10:51 am Video
|
|
Lane, you made a video? Is it on-line yet? DK _________________ We're all so caught up in wanting to sound different, wanting to sound original-- but we should stop trying so hard. We're all unique at birth. We'll come out sounding original without giving it a thought. (Feet Rogers) |
|
|
|
Lane Gray
From: Topeka, KS
|
Posted 25 Sep 2014 11:07 am Re: Video
|
|
First, I thought I'd pass along that Steve will do them as Sitar bars; I'm having him grind a flat on my stainless, and I wish I'd thought of it for the brass
Then, Dave asked:
Dave Kolars wrote: |
Lane, you made a video? Is it on-line yet? DK |
Yup. About a month ago.
Donny Hinson pointed out that they sound similar.
They do indeed, when I listen either to the original video or the youtube-compressed version.
While I sound like me on all of them, it seems easier and more pleasing to sound like me on the brass and two chromed bars.
When I shot the video I did not yet have a powder coated bar. It surprised me in that it sounded much like the brass. It's quite good. And the brass wants occasional polishing to keep the pretty on (my fingers turn it grubby).
Here's the video
http://youtu.be/--1I9UOHISU _________________ 2 pedal steels, a lapStrat, and an 8-string Dobro (and 3 ukes)
More amps than guitars, and not many effects |
|
|
|
Steven Gunder
From: TOPEKA,KS.
|
Posted 7 Oct 2014 10:49 am Sdf Tone Bars
|
|
TTT |
|
|
|
Steven Gunder
From: TOPEKA,KS.
|
Posted 20 Oct 2014 9:46 am Sdf Tone Bars
|
|
TTT |
|
|
|
Michael Hillman
From: Boise, Idaho, USA
|
Posted 20 Oct 2014 9:00 pm Pleasure to visit with you Steve,
|
|
Hey Steve, great to visit with you about our common pursuit of providing great quality bars to the steel guitar community, I'll look forward to hearing from you in the near future - you have a wealth of knowledge on the fabrication side, Best Regards, Michael Hillman _________________ Two Spector 5 string basses, Martin D-18, Taylor 812CE, 1996’Epiphone Sheraton, 1944 Epiphone Zenith, a killer Luttrell 6 string resophonic, 1932 Model 56 Dobro, Beard Model E, Martin Soprano Uke, 10 string 1953 Alkire Eharp, Peavey Nashville 112, Fender Bassman, Fender 75 watt Rumble, and a Fender 100 watt Rumble. |
|
|
|
Steven Gunder
From: TOPEKA,KS.
|
Posted 13 Nov 2014 7:16 pm Sdf Tone Bars
|
|
TTT |
|
|
|