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Topic: Zane Plays the Pedal Sho-Bro |
Zane King
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Posted 24 Jul 2014 8:35 am |
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Here is a sneak peak at the new Slideking Sho-Bro from Jackson Steel. Check it out. I like the fact that it starts with an actual dobro. Thus, it sounds authentically dobro yet with the pedals you can get the "steel" type sounds with that resonator tone. FUN!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNQusOIzZxo
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Email: zaneking@me.com
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Richard Sinkler
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Posted 24 Jul 2014 8:52 am
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I know the same people who always advocate not using pedals when using a dobro sim, might say the same about not playing steel guitar licks on this. I never subscribed to that way of thinking. This thing is way too awesome, and you just knocked it out of the park on that song.
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Alan Brookes
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Brummy living in Southern California
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Posted 24 Jul 2014 10:05 am
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Excellent. This is what I've been waiting to hear ever since you mentioned it in the posting about the pedal bass steel, and I wasn't disappointed. Excellent sound and well played. How did you mike it? Does it have an internal microphone?
I shall be interested to see some close-ups of the instrument. |
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Jack Stanton
From:
Somewhere in the swamps of Jersey
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Posted 24 Jul 2014 11:11 am
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| What's not to like? Sounds great! |
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Kevin Raymer
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Chalybeate, Kentucky, USA
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Posted 24 Jul 2014 11:20 am
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Very nice..
I like it...
All except for the HAT...
The hat has GOT to go...
Sorry...
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Rex Thomas
From:
Thompson's Station, TN
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Posted 24 Jul 2014 11:21 am Yeah man!!
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GOAL!!!!!!!!!!!!  |
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Storm Rosson
From:
Silver City, NM. USA
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Posted 24 Jul 2014 11:45 am
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That's frikin cool !! Wonder what Jerry Douglas' take on this bad boy is.No offense Zane you smoked that sucker..Stormy  |
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Mark Eaton
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Sonoma County in The Great State Of Northern California
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Posted 24 Jul 2014 12:49 pm
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I'm a long-time member of Jerry's forum. I started a thread there and shared Zane's video, let's see if Jerry chimes in about the pedal dobro.
In the meantime, check this out, Anna McCune at Summer NAMM.
Okay Kevin - what about this hat?
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Will Hart
From:
St. Croix, Virgin Islands
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Posted 24 Jul 2014 1:40 pm
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| impeccable proficiency and exquisite taste. As usual. Great job. |
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Dale Rottacker
From:
Walla Walla Washington, USA
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Alan Brookes
From:
Brummy living in Southern California
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Posted 24 Jul 2014 2:39 pm
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| Is it a regular pedal steel mechanism inside the body of a resonator guitar? If so, how did you get the pedal rods to pass through the back without interfering with the resonance of the guitar? |
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Allen Hutchison
From:
Kilcoy, Qld, Australia
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Posted 24 Jul 2014 3:08 pm
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Magic Zane
Ya got me - I WANT one! |
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Daniel McKee
From:
Corinth Mississippi
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Posted 24 Jul 2014 3:13 pm
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| That's really cool. |
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Zane King
From:
Nashville, TN
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Posted 24 Jul 2014 3:34 pm
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Thank ya'll for commenting! That makes it fun when folks chime in. Sweet!
Now as for a couple of questions asked earlier….(I'll try to keep up but forgive me if I fail to answer one). Just ask it again if you like.
As for Jerry Douglas' take on it, I would assume that he no doubt has tried different things similar to this through his career. That said, this device from Jackson Steel clearly works. The concept is that it can be put on any resonator guitar. Thus, what Jackson will be selling is not the dobro itself but rather the unit that it attaches to.
Back to what Jerry might think, well, my guess is we will have two different camps from those resonator players. One camp, will cry foul and blasphemy! The other camp will embrace it warmly. I think for the most part they will look at this as an "extra" instrument in their tool box. They will come up with unique tunings and will use the pedals simply to acquire more tunings and positions. Likely, most of them will not use the "steel" side of what this can do. That leaves another bunch of folks! That's where we come in. Steelers. Most of us, don't really play the dobro properly if we have always played steel guitar. We approach it considerably different. I won't go into that for now. All said, steelers are going to love this like crazy. All of us for the most part. Reason being is you have a "pedals down" position. You have a minor position. You have diminished chords. You have dominant 7ths. You have your "home" right there with an authentic resonator sound. It's easy to play. Most all of you steel players would spend about 10 minutes with this and then literally go play a gig with it.
Someone else asked about the tuning. I'm promoting this with the "E" tuning. This is the traditional "E" tuning. From bottom to top --- E,B,E,G#,B,E --- pedal 1 lowers the 2 lower Es whole tone to D. Pedal 2 raises G# to A. Pedal 3 raises both Bs to C#. (Thus effectively creating the "Day" setup). Then Pedal 4 lowers the G# to G…thus making a one minor position. Of course you have a minor position with the 3rd pedal engaged as well. But that 1 minor position is so sweet!!!!!
More to come on this…..we are blasting into a whole new world here!!!!!!
Stay tuned,
Zane
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Paddy Long
From:
Christchurch, New Zealand
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Posted 24 Jul 2014 3:55 pm
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So Zane is it still effectively playable with the 2nd and 3rd pedals in the Emmons configuration ? which most steel players are probably more familiar with.
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Zane King
From:
Nashville, TN
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Posted 24 Jul 2014 4:07 pm
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Paddy-
Yes that is fine. You can simply flip 1 and 4 as well.
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Tony Dingus
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Kingsport, Tennessee, USA
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Posted 24 Jul 2014 6:41 pm
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Zane, are you using standard E9 tuning gauge strings ? I would be using D tuning or at least try it. I love the tone you've got in E. I love it so I'll add this to my wish list. When will they release the price ?
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Richard Sinkler
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aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana
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Posted 24 Jul 2014 7:25 pm
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On the subject of strings, are you using bronze strings like would normally be used on a reso, or nickel/stainless strings?
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Kevin Raymer
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Chalybeate, Kentucky, USA
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Posted 24 Jul 2014 7:41 pm
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| Mark Eaton wrote: |
I'm a long-time member of Jerry's forum. I started a thread there and shared Zane's video, let's see if Jerry chimes in about the pedal dobro.
In the meantime, check this out, Anna McCune at Summer NAMM.
Okay Kevin - what about this hat?
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What hat ??
Is there a hat in that picture somewhere ??
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Zum / Knaggs / Breedlove
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Bill L. Wilson
From:
Oklahoma, USA
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Posted 24 Jul 2014 7:52 pm Man!!!!!
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| Zane, you really are a fantastic player, and that Dobro sounds Great. I Like It!!!!But my wife will say no, to the purchase of one, and that my Emmons will have to do. After all she's the one who works here, and I get to pick on the weekends. So I'm not gonna complain to much. |
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L. A. Wunder
From:
Lombard, Illinois, USA
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Posted 24 Jul 2014 8:25 pm
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| I want one!!! I play a regular square-neck Dobro in church, tuned D,B,G,D,A,E. While the guitar players just switch a couple of fingers, I literally have to go from one end of the neck to the other, often on several consecutive notes. (No sliding allowed in church) having pedals would allow me to cut down on some of the movement and give me "fingers" on my left hand, instead of just one big "thumb." |
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Kevin Hatton
From:
Buffalo, N.Y.
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Posted 24 Jul 2014 9:10 pm
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| Looks like a Stan Laurel imitation playing dobro. |
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Tony Prior
From:
Charlotte NC
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Posted 25 Jul 2014 1:42 am
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excellent..fine playing Zane..convincing !
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Paul King
From:
Gainesville, Texas, USA
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Posted 25 Jul 2014 5:02 am
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| I like it and the guy doing the playing is doing a fantastic job. You are one fantastic musician Zane. I wish that talent level run in this King bunch like it does yours. |
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Lee Rider
From:
Fort Bragg, California, USA
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Posted 25 Jul 2014 7:33 am
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I had this idea a couple of years ago. Looks like you can put just about any dobro into the pedal framework. Wonder how much you would need to alter the dobro. Looks like at least roller nut and saddle along with cover plate. Would you need to alter the dobro body physically by drilling holes, etc....my thoughts were just to drop dobro into a framework and clamp it in.
I'd like to find out how much this is to buy; would love to get one.
Gene Parsons and I are working on a single string DoBender to just pull the second string from the headstock side; more for the dobro player. Hope to have that done soon. The Jackson pedal dobro is more for the pedal steel player but I'm sure it will convert many dobrists! |
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