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Bob Poole


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Myrtle Beach SC, USA
Post  Posted 18 Jul 2014 10:11 am    
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Knee levers have a lot of "play" in them as in where the pin goes thru the actual lever and secures it to the bracket...just really loose feeling.i've had other steels that had the same problem but it just wasn't quite as bad.any fix???drill it out & replace with next size pin??? just a little annoying,don't think it's in danger of falling off or anything like that,just a little worrisome.
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Richard Sinkler


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Post  Posted 18 Jul 2014 11:17 am    
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What kind of guitar. On my Carter, the LKL and LKR are loose. It is not a problem, but like you say, it's a little annoying. But, it would be more annoying if I had to remove the lever and bracket and drill out the pin, then insert a new one. The next size up would probably not fit without drilling the hole out a bit.
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Lee Dassow


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Jefferson, Georgia USA
Post  Posted 18 Jul 2014 2:07 pm    
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I think he's talking about the magnum pro select.
Those knee levers are a little floppy. I tried
Sqeezing the top of the knee lever with a big vice grips. Couldn't budge it. It's just held in by a
little pin, but I don't think they'll ever break.
Tennessee Lee
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Lane Gray


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Topeka, KS
Post  Posted 18 Jul 2014 2:21 pm    
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If you want to give resistance to a joint like that, try squeezing a small bit of paper into the gap between the two pieces
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Bob Poole


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Myrtle Beach SC, USA
Post  Posted 18 Jul 2014 6:55 pm     Knee levers
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Yep Lee,that'd be the one...I've had floppy knees on some really nice Sho-Buds & other guitars too.some of them had a screw instead of the pin & I was able to come up with a shim of some sort,sand down an already thin nylon washer or something...this I couldn't come up with anything & was afraid to try the vise grips or anything like that.Otherwise,i'm really startin to like this guitar.it's comfortable to me.it's what I have right now.when finances allow,there'll be another Emmons,but I do like this guitar...well....I guess I could actually say that I love it.i would like to replace the George L with a single coil of some type,Emmons,TrueTone....any ideas from other Magnum owners as to what would sound good,i'd love to hear your opinion.i just really like that single coil tone...but,after almost a month(this coming Sunday,i believe)I'm really getting more & more @ home with it.
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Howard Parker


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Maryland
Post  Posted 19 Jul 2014 5:15 am    
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A drop or 2 of blue Loctite on the pin ends will firm things up and will last for months.

Apply as necessary.

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Bob Poole


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Myrtle Beach SC, USA
Post  Posted 19 Jul 2014 2:35 pm     Loc-Tite
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Thanks Howard !!! will give this one a try !!!
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Howard Parker


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Maryland
Post  Posted 19 Jul 2014 3:50 pm    
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While I'm thinking of it, a drop or so in the fork where the pin is. Just let it set over night.

This fix was recommended for a flopping vertical on my Carter. Worked like a champ.

Repeat every 3-6 mos, depending how often the guitar is cased & uncased.

cheers

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James Jacoby

 

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Ohio, USA
Post  Posted 19 Jul 2014 4:27 pm    
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I too, thank you Howard. I have two
carter S-10s that the vertical levers are waaay too loose on. I wonder if the Loctite would work on slippery leg tubes? I have that problem, also. -Jake-
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Howard Parker


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Maryland
Post  Posted 19 Jul 2014 4:50 pm    
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I think there is an easy fix for slipping leg clutches although I have not faced that issue myself. Search the forum or start a new topic/subject and someone will come to your aid. Very Happy

I don't recall who first suggested the Loctite but it works so...well!

That vertical was driving me crazy.

h

-edit- Click Here for my original query!
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Jim Palenscar

 

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Oceanside, Calif, USA
Post  Posted 19 Jul 2014 9:29 pm    
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Drive old pin out- replace w properly sized screw w lock nut.
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Tony Prior


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Charlotte NC
Post  Posted 20 Jul 2014 4:08 am    
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Jim Palenscar wrote:
Drive old pin out- replace w properly sized screw w lock nut.


finally ! Fix the problem not the symptom... Exclamation
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Jack Stoner


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Kansas City, MO
Post  Posted 20 Jul 2014 5:14 am    
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My Franklin came with a screw and lock nut on the knee levers. The guitar is almost 33 years old and the knee levers are still tight.
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Howard Parker


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Maryland
Post  Posted 20 Jul 2014 5:25 am    
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It works just fine!

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Lee Dassow


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Jefferson, Georgia USA
Post  Posted 21 Jul 2014 2:45 pm    
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When they manufactured these guitars they were trying to keep costs down. I think I remember seeing an SD-10 sell for new about $2295.00 on Musicians friend about 2010. Still worth about $1500 now. Not bad for an instrument with floppy knee levers. I like Howards Idea, cheap fix. Tennessee Lee
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Tommy Auldridge


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Maryland, USA
Post  Posted 22 Jul 2014 11:47 am     Fix for slipping leg clutches
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I fix mine by taking out the inside tube and inserting a piece of a wooden dowel which I've pre cut to just the right length. Put evrything back together, and it can't possibly slip. Of course, I leave one rear leg as is, so I can adjust it for leveling. Tommy.....
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