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Topic: Learning W W H W W W H can be tougher than it have to be |
Bengt Erlandsen
From:
Brekstad, NORWAY
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Posted 18 Jul 2014 3:43 am |
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Im having troubles w using W W H W W W H to represent the major scale. Not that it is wrong, because it show all the steps between the notes in the major scale and you will find it in numerous textbooks w music theory. So it is totally correct to write it like that.
It just aint visual/intuitive enough to let you see what it really is. Even the C major scale on the written G-clef staff aint visual enough imo to really let you see whats going on there between each note, because the visual distance between every one is the same. The only thing I find really visual on the written G-clef staff is that the last # sign(no matter if it is only one # or more #) shows your 7th note
(which lets you know immediately where the Root note has its reference line)
W W H W W W H aint really working for me
WWW WWW H WWW WWW WWW H would be a more visual way but still not showing all neccessary info imo
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1 WWW 2 WWW 3 H 4 WWW 5 WWW 6 WWW 7 H 1
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This one shows all info but slightly difficult to read and visualize
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WWW WWW WWW WWW WWW
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 1
H H
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This is probably the most organized visual picture I can get for now. The only thing it doesnt show superclearly is that the first 4 notes share the same intervallic build as the last 4 notes
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WWW WWW WWW WWW
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 1
H H
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I removed the WWW remark between the 4th and 5th note only to clear up the visual picture.
Things do line up very nice and kinda easy to remember once you get it sorted properly.
Below is only notes from the C major scale listed in a cycle of 5ths(dont let that scare you)
Cycle of 5ths will be something youll probly come accross sooner or later and to begin with it will seem like confusing, dont get it and ??????
It did that to me in the beginning.
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F - G - A - B
C - D - E F
G - A - B C
D - E F - G
A - B C - D
E F - G - A
B C - D - E
F - G - A - B
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There is a nice system that happens inbetween the lines there and I hope you can spot it.
Two adjacent lines will form one of the 7 different scales.
From the top
F (Major type) Lydian
C (Major type) Ionian
G (Major type) Mixolydian
D (minor type) Dorian
A (minor type) Aeolian
E (minor type) Phrygian
B (minor type) Locrian
You can also see that there are 3 major3rd intervals there in the 3 first lines
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F - - - A
C - - - E
G - - - B
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and the next 4 lines contains the minor 3rd intervals
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D - - F
A - - C
E - - G
B - - D
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Hope this can ease the mind and not overload the brain. All we wanna do is actually play music.
Bengt Erlandsen |
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chris ivey
From:
california (deceased)
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Posted 18 Jul 2014 8:42 am
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Bengt Erlandsen
From:
Brekstad, NORWAY
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Posted 18 Jul 2014 8:56 am
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Thumbs up to that
Do we need all this theory? maybe not.
If you find something useful, keep it. If it isnt useful, disregard or trash it.
Bengt Erlandsen |
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Larry Behm
From:
Mt Angel, Or 97362
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Posted 18 Jul 2014 9:17 am
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Paul Franklin talks a lot about intervals. For those who want to go there, go there. For those who don't, just tell me what key we are in.
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Pete Burak
From:
Portland, OR USA
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Posted 18 Jul 2014 10:08 am
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My basic Music Theory 101 lesson uses the song "Like A Rolling Stone" by Bob Dylan.
I typically use songs the student knows, along with Number System and actual Chord Names to show these relationships to folks who are new to Theory.
I also like the G# to G lower:
Major Scale (Descending) - Key of G using G#>G lower:
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-----G---F#m--Em---D---C--Bm--Am--G
F#|--------------------------------------------------
D#|--------------------------------------------------
G#|--------------------------------------------------
E-|--15--14G--12G--10--8--7G--5G--3------------------
B-|--15--14G--12G--10--8--7G--5G--3------------------
G#|--15--14G--12G--10--8--7G--5G--3------------------
F#|--------------------------------------------------
E-|--------------------------------------------------
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Major Scale (Ascending) - Key of G using G#>G lower:
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-----G--Am--Bm---C--D--Em---Dim---G
F#|--------------------------------------------------
D#|--------------------------------------------------
G#|--------------------------------------------------
E-|--3--5G--7G--8--10--12G--13F--15------------------
B-|--3--5G--7G--8--10--12G--13F--15------------------
G#|--3--5G--7G--8--10--12G--13F--15------------------
F#|--------------------------------------------------
E-|--------------------------------------------------
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Jamie Mitchell
From:
Nashville, TN
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Posted 22 Jul 2014 6:15 pm
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| wtf? |
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