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Aaron Schiff

 

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Cedaredge, CO, USA
Post  Posted 14 Jan 2001 10:45 am    
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Background: I quit playing with other people 30 years ago and have been a musical solo hermit since then. I fingerpick a very syncopated idiosyncratic Travis style guitar, playing mostly rags, blues and jazz. Seven months ago I started dobro with the hopes of fitting in with a Bluegrass or Western Swing band (eventually I want to take up lap steel). Last night I started practicing with a bass player and I am going to speak with a fiddler today.

Question: How do I learn to back up others? I am used to syncopating my own rhythm and lead on guitar and it is all very integrated. I have been using the Homespun dobro tapes from Cindy Cashdollar and Stacy Phillips and the Rob Ickes videos are on the way. Cindy's tape has a short segment on a "rhythm chop". Is getting good at that one technique all there is to it? The rest of the tapes concentrate on learning the melodies with some variations and flourishes. This is good, but does nothing for learning to backup others and producing a total band sound.

2nd Question: I know that guitar, bass and fiddle will work. But will dobro, fiddle and bass work as a group or will we need a guitar to fill out the sound?

Thanks, Aaron
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Tom Olson

 

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Spokane, WA
Post  Posted 14 Jan 2001 12:56 pm    
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I am not experienced at all in playing steel or dobro, let alone in a combo situation. However, quite a few years ago I played six-string in a 5-piece band. Up until that time, I had mainly practiced and played alone, or messed around now and then with another guitar player or two.

This may sound like an overly simplistic answer, and it may even seem more than obvious, but I would say not to worry so much about how to learn to back up others and whether a dobro, fiddle and bass will work together.

I say this because, at least in my experience, a combo setting is very condusive to learning and you will learn a lot about back up and other playing techniques simply by playing with a combo, trying different techniques, and listening to suggestions from your combo-mates as well as to what they are playing.

As long as you're enjoying it, I think playing in a combo is a great learning experience -- take advantage of it and have fun! I hope I get the opportunity again some day.

[This message was edited by Tom Olson on 14 January 2001 at 12:58 PM.]

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mikey


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New Jersey
Post  Posted 14 Jan 2001 10:46 pm    
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have fun

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Mike D

 

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Phx, Az
Post  Posted 16 Jan 2001 7:15 am    
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I 've been there too. I primarily play bottleneck blues and all my learning and playing was done alone. I could play the way I felt, if I wanted to do 13 bars instead of 12 I could. If I wanted to change meter, I could.

But fitting into a band was much easier than I thought, just let 'em know you'll need a bit of time and let the music they make take you where you need to go. Eventually it'll seem natural (or so I'm told)

Mike http://members.fortunecity.com/terapln/home1.html
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