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Topic: 11-String E9th keyheads |
Ben Elder
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La Crescenta, California, USA
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Posted 7 Jun 2014 12:17 pm |
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I've noticed various ZB (but possibly this applies to other makers...or did anyone else make 11-string necks?) 11-string steels aren't consistent as to whether the six strings are on the bass or treble side.
As a player who'd be inclined toward Extended E9th, I wonder why would anyone want six on the treble side? The extended/extra string is a lower E (maybe G#). Putting the six on the treble side messes with years of 10-string orientation to 5 + 5. Is there a manufacturing reason for 5 + 6 as opposed to 6 + 5? Is there some other tuning that inspires the 5 + 6 configuration?
(I don't know enough about C6th to raise the question there.)
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Lane Gray
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Topeka, KS
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Posted 7 Jun 2014 2:26 pm
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Given that keyhead orientation stops mattering as soon as it crosses the roller nut, I'm not sure it matters.
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Peter Freiberger
From:
California, USA
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John De Maille
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On a Mountain in Upstate Halcottsville, N.Y.
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Posted 7 Jun 2014 3:56 pm
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I have an S-11 RusLer, that, I bought in 1976. It sounds very much like ZB, but, plays much nicer and easier to adjust, if needed.
BTW- It's 5/4 |
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Richard Sinkler
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aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana
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Posted 7 Jun 2014 3:59 pm
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If I had an S-11, I would add an E below the 10th string B. If I had a D-11, I would also put a G string as string number 2 and have the D on string 1.
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b0b
From:
Cloverdale, CA, USA
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Tom Gorr
From:
Three Hills, Alberta
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Posted 7 Jun 2014 6:47 pm
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| I'd probably drop the D string and have g# and e as 10 and 11 |
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Donny Hinson
From:
Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
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Posted 7 Jun 2014 7:13 pm
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I don't think it makes much difference on a single-neck guitar. But if I were building a double, I'd put the most keys on the front and back side, leaving more space at the center of the guitar. Guitars with very little space between the center keys (like the E9th 10th string tuner and the C6th 1st string tuner) always strike me as "lacking in design".
Some guitars have keys that will actually hit each other! That goes beyond "general lacking in design", and actually comes closer to "half-assed stupid".  |
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chas smith R.I.P.
From:
Encino, CA, USA
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Posted 7 Jun 2014 8:03 pm
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There were two D-11 Emmons PP guitars, a wraparound (Bill Echols) and a cut-tail (Bobby Garret). I bought the cut-tail from Hank Eldridge.
And I have a 1964 Permanent with a D-11, 16, also made for Bobby Garrett
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Tom Gorr
From:
Three Hills, Alberta
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Posted 7 Jun 2014 8:43 pm
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Tom Gorr
From:
Three Hills, Alberta
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Posted 7 Jun 2014 8:45 pm
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Last edited by Tom Gorr on 8 Jun 2014 9:12 am; edited 2 times in total |
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Richard Sinkler
From:
aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana
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Posted 7 Jun 2014 9:00 pm
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How heavy is that Bud?
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chas smith R.I.P.
From:
Encino, CA, USA
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Posted 7 Jun 2014 10:06 pm
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Richard, in the original case, 85lbs.
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Richard Sinkler
From:
aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana
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Posted 8 Jun 2014 9:35 am
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85lbs? You're making my back hurt.
 
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