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Topic: Suggestions ???? |
Carl West
From:
La Habra, CA, USA (deceased)
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Posted 1 Dec 2003 6:04 am |
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Hey Guys or Gals,
This one is pretty strange so let me set up this situation.
Emmons LaGrande with 8 /7.
B pedal, Emmons set-up.
When depressing the B pedal there is a very slight click. With my fingers behind the bar while playing,I can feel that click on the 3rd string. Very annoying. I can't seem to locate the exact place where this click may be occuring. Was wondering if anyone has encountered this ?
Thanks in advance.
Carl West
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Kevin Hatton
From:
Buffalo, N.Y.
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Posted 1 Dec 2003 7:33 am
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| A pickup too close to the strings will do that. |
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Bob Carlson
From:
Surprise AZ.
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Posted 1 Dec 2003 7:51 am
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The B pedal does raise the 3rd string a half tone. Try holding your finger on the roller and see if you feel it there.
Bob |
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Carl West
From:
La Habra, CA, USA (deceased)
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Posted 1 Dec 2003 7:56 am
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Kevin, the string is clear of the pick-up.
Bob, yes when I put my finger on the roller I can feel it, but pressure on it doesn't stop it.
Thanks guys.
Carl West
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Bobby Bowman
From:
Cypress, Texas, USA, R.I.P.
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Posted 1 Dec 2003 8:39 am
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Carl,
There are two or three things it could be. But first, check the alignment of the pull rod coming through the changer. That's usually where it's at. Push up, down or sideways with your finger on that nylon tuner while you activate the B pedal. The next place to check is at the bell crank where the pull rod inserts into it. One other area that comes to mind is the pull rod itself in relation to other pull rods it may be crossing over or under on its' way back to the changer.
Where the pull rod is coming through the changer it should be in either the middle hole of the triple raise or the 3'rd hole. (hole fartherest from the axle)
I have, on occassion, found that the bottom edge of the raise finger ear and the top edge of the lower finger ear are bumping each other, in which case you have to file off a little of one of them,,,usually the lower finger is easier to get to without taking the changer (guitar) apart.
BB
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David Doggett
From:
Bawl'mer, MD (formerly of MS, Nawluns, Gnashville, Knocksville, Lost Angeles, Bahsten. and Philly)
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Posted 1 Dec 2003 10:48 am
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| I've experienced the exact same thing on my Fessy. Try adjusting the return spring screw a turn or two in one direction. If that doesn't work try the other direction. |
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Larry Hamilton
From:
Amarillo,Tx
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Posted 1 Dec 2003 11:21 am
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My Le Grand quite often does the same thing on the rkl, raising my E to F. Now I have something else to look for. Any thing else it might be?
Keep pickin', Larry
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Jim Palenscar
From:
Oceanside, Calif, USA
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Posted 1 Dec 2003 11:42 am
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| You're not playing loudly enough |
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Carl West
From:
La Habra, CA, USA (deceased)
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Posted 1 Dec 2003 12:43 pm
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Thanks guys for all the responce. I was never able to see or find anything that caused the problem. So I lowered the 3rd string, brought it back to pitch and the click, and being able to feel the click left. ?????
So far so good . . and thanks again.
Carl West |
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C Dixon
From:
Duluth, GA USA
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Posted 1 Dec 2003 1:10 pm
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There is a click that can often be heard on Legrandes, that is quite ellusive. In fact I could never find the cause on mine; until one day I had the guitar upside down on a table. Then I noticed a click on several pedals and knee levers. But each time I righted the guitar, most of them would not happen. Yet, reoccur once upside down again.
After hours of painstaking study I finally found out what was causing it. And as I investigated further, realized much more about the design and parts on the LeGrande.
IE, Emmons is one of few PSG's, that uses a nylon spacer between the changer finger and the nylon tuning screw on the pull rod. For some reason, there is a lot of play in this spacer (poor design IMO). In other words, the hole in the spacer is too large for the diameter of the pull rod.
Now, in most cases it causes no problem. However, ocassionally IF the pull rod is at a certain angle (check Bobby Bowman's post), this little spacer can get slightly "cocked". Then as the changer is right near its maximum travel on a given pedal or knee lever, it will "click" into a straight position.
The cure is, as Bobby says, slightly change the angle of the pull rod. This is easily done by loosening the set screw on that pull's bellcrank; and sliding it along its crossbar just a tad. If the click gets louder, then move it in the other direction. This solves the problem in almost every case.
Good luck,
carl[This message was edited by C Dixon on 01 December 2003 at 01:16 PM.] |
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