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Topic: Who raises Bs to D and what do y'all do with it? |
Lane Gray
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Topeka, KS
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Posted 12 Apr 2014 4:15 pm |
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Someone asked me in a PM about an old Jimmy Day use for LKV, raising the Bs to D. I told him I had no idea, as I'd never had it, and told him to bend the ear of the Day scholars.
My first thought was "if it was on an OLD copedent of his, but isn't any longer, it must not have been that useful," but what the heck, it's worth asking about.
I know that some Uni players use it to compensate for the lack of a D string, but I have seen others say they use it.
So, other than the obvious of either raising 5 to 7 (6 to 7 if you start with A pedal) or suspending the 3 of the AB form, how do y'all use it?
I ask because the other guy I guess feels embarrassed by asking a question, and I have no compunction at all about asking any questions.
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Charles Kurck
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Living in Arkansas but Heaven is home
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Posted 13 Apr 2014 7:12 am
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Jimmy Day raised the 10th string to D.
Pete Drake raised the 5th string to D.
I raise the 5th string to D.
In the pedals down position It can be used as playing the AF change one fret up.
It can also be used as playing the 2nd string lowered to D.
I use it a lot. |
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Bob Carlucci
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Candor, New York, USA
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Posted 13 Apr 2014 7:45 am
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I tried it at one time... Did nothing for me, as that D note is a standard E9 change on the 2nd string lower lever... You could get a nice unison I suppose, but most of us already have a few of those anyhow... bob...
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Richard Sinkler
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aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana
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Posted 13 Apr 2014 8:23 am
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| So, other than the obvious of either raising 5 to 7 (6 to 7 if you start with A pedal) |
I had it on my "zero" pedal for a while because of a solo I play that has me on strings 3 & 5, and having to move up 3 frets and having to use the A pedal and slant up one more fret on string 5 (3 half steps). It didn't work as good or sound as good as the slant, so I took it off.
This solo I play wouldn't work with string 2. The whole thing involves sliding into that slant and back out of it. Couldn't do that with the second string without having to change string grips and break the flow of the solo. Once again I will say, it's not the note that matters, it's how you get to that note and what you can do with it once you get there.
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Clyde Mattocks
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Kinston, North Carolina, USA
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Posted 13 Apr 2014 9:53 pm
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I raise both B's to D on a knee lever and use them all the time. Lots of variations, one with A and B down, gives a suspended third. With a decending (or ascending) scale from a pedal down position, it fill in a missing note that you would otherwise have to move the bar for. Also, when you raise E to F# independently you can go to the IV of the IV. Also used by itself, another handy 7th chord.
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Greg Cutshaw
From:
Corry, PA, USA
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Posted 14 Apr 2014 5:01 am
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| Pete Drake used this on DIVORCE and it was his version of the the A-F combo. It does have a different sound than the A-F combo depending on exactly how you time the pedal pulls. |
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Jerry Jones
From:
Franklin, Tenn.
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Posted 14 Apr 2014 5:15 am
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Lloyd on "Divorce"…. Pete on "Stand by Your Man."
For the B > D change, I usually just engage pedal A and E lever one fret up… and I use it a lot. 
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Lane Gray
From:
Topeka, KS
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Posted 14 Apr 2014 5:33 am
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So you use it with the C pedal to do that? Interesting.
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Jerry Jones
From:
Franklin, Tenn.
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Posted 14 Apr 2014 8:25 am
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If I understand your question…. no, just with pedal A and E lever. It's a bit of a contorted move, but you get used to it. If I'm only playing strings 4 and 5, I usually keep the B pedal engaged along with A. It's a nice "sus" move.
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Clyde Mattocks
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Kinston, North Carolina, USA
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Posted 14 Apr 2014 12:39 pm
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I mentioned above that I raise both B's to D. On the 10th string, I also lower the B to A. That range A to D is asking a lot of a string. I use an .036W as the .038W that comes packaged with most sets can't take it. Even so, I occasionally (maybe twice a year) break one.
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