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Topic: 2nd string feel stop and Porter Wagoner |
Ian Rae
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Posted 1 Apr 2014 1:38 pm |
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I put a feel stop on my 2nd string lower today, a job I've been putting off until it really mattered. Up till now I'd only been using it to get a dominant seventh, but I needed an accurate fifth below the raised 3rd to play the tab below (intro to Devil's Alley) which I'd got from this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpjANeaRI-k
It's double-tracked (don't know why) but I think what I have is close enough. Who was the steel player - Don Warden?
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Richard Sinkler
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aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana
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Posted 1 Apr 2014 7:29 pm
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If that tab is accurate, I doubt it is Don. I may be wrong, but I think he only had the A & B pedals and no knee levers.
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Ian Rae
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Redditch, England
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Posted 2 Apr 2014 1:02 am
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Richard, I think you may have just explained why it's double-tracked.
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Donny Hinson
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Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
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Posted 2 Apr 2014 7:41 am
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| Definitely not Don. Sounds more like Weldon to me, as he did a few cuts with Porter at one time. |
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b0b
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Cloverdale, CA, USA
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Posted 3 Apr 2014 10:56 am
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Why wouldn't you just play that 10LL note on the 5th string?
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Ken Byng
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Southampton, England
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Posted 3 Apr 2014 11:58 am
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| Donny Hinson wrote: |
| Definitely not Don. Sounds more like Weldon to me, as he did a few cuts with Porter at one time. |
Donny - are you absolutely sure of that? You know that you have been accredited as having cardboard ears!! Not many of us can boast that one!! 
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Ian Rae
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Redditch, England
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Posted 3 Apr 2014 11:59 am
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b0b, I'm sure there are lots of ways - you could do the second phrase on 4 & 6 without breaking the slur, but the sound would change. But crucially, I've ended up fitting the stop, a job I still wouldn't have done otherwise 
It's worth pointing out that I didn't work out the tab directly on the guitar - I'm not fluent enough. I wrote down what I could hear in notation, then figured where on the neck to find the sounds. I find it quicker in the end 
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b0b
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Cloverdale, CA, USA
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Posted 3 Apr 2014 12:59 pm
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I so rarely use the full step lower that I've put it on a pedal. I use the half step (D# to D) constantly. I've never found a half stop mechanism that was firm enough for me to play in tune all the time. It's just the way I play - I hit the lever too hard sometimes.
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Ken Byng
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Southampton, England
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Posted 3 Apr 2014 1:14 pm
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b0b
I use that 2nd string to C# lower all of the time when playing the E neck. Couldn't do without it. Nor the Eb raise to E. The D note is less critical for me. It's funny how we arrive at our musical styles and develop our pedal set-ups to suit.
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Ian Rae
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Redditch, England
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Posted 3 Apr 2014 1:56 pm
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The stop I've fitted is adjustable for firmness, but I have to admit that I need to put a stronger spring in it, as I do tend to push too hard sometimes when I get excited - which is quite often, I'm glad to say! 
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Donny Hinson
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Posted 4 Apr 2014 2:23 pm
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| Ken Byng wrote: |
| Donny - are you absolutely sure of that? You know that you have been accredited as having cardboard ears!! Not many of us can boast that one!! |
Ken, on this side of the pond, even cardboard ears can hear when someone's using knee levers!  |
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Ken Byng
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Southampton, England
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Posted 5 Apr 2014 8:21 am
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