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Topic: dd-3 hookup to n-112 eq patches? |
Jack Ritter
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Posted 20 Mar 2014 7:44 am |
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Is the pre EQ patch the best or the post EQ patch? I basically have always used the dd3 from the volume pedal. Jack
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Mike Wheeler
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Posted 20 Mar 2014 9:16 am
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The pre-eq patch is intended for a pot volume pedal...to provide correct impedance matching. This prevents the loss of tone one encounters when running from guitar, to pot volume pedal, to amp input.
The post-eq patch is intended for effect pedals. The signal levels, and impedances, are optimized for those little stand-alone pedals.
I run my RV-3 pedal in the post-eq patch and it sounds a lot better than when it's in line with the volume pedal going to the 112's input. I think your DD-3 would sound better in the post-eq patch point also.
If you use any rack mount devices that use line level signals, there is a preamp output and power amp input on the back panel that provides correct signal levels for such devices.
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Jack Ritter
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Enid, Oklahoma, USA
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Posted 20 Mar 2014 1:51 pm
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Thanx a bunch, Mike. Jack
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Mike Wheeler
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Delaware, Ohio, USA
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Posted 20 Mar 2014 3:21 pm
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You're welcome, Jack. Glad I could help.
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Alvin Douglas
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Prince Edward Island
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Posted 27 Mar 2014 10:56 pm
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| Mike Wheeler wrote: |
The pre-eq patch is intended for a pot volume pedal...to provide correct impedance matching. This prevents the loss of tone one encounters when running from guitar, to pot volume pedal, to amp input.
The post-eq patch is intended for effect pedals. The signal levels, and impedances, are optimized for those little stand-alone pedals.
I run my RV-3 pedal in the post-eq patch and it sounds a lot better than when it's in line with the volume pedal going to the 112's input. I think your DD-3 would sound better in the post-eq patch point also.
If you use any rack mount devices that use line level signals, there is a preamp output and power amp input on the back panel that provides correct signal levels for such devices. |
As per your suggestion, I moved my DD3 to the post EQ side of my NV112. If I understand your post I should run a double cable from the pre side of the amp EQ to the volume pedal. Easy to try. I like the idea of not reducing the tone by adding series resistance. I have been running a cable from the guitar to the volume pedal and then to the I/P of the amp.
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Mike Wheeler
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Delaware, Ohio, USA
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Posted 28 Mar 2014 6:13 am
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Alvin, that's correct. The Pre-EQ patch is intended for a pot volume pedal, and it provides the buffering needed to prevent tone loss. The Post-EQ patch is intended for the small effect pedals many players like to use...again, it provides the impedance, and signal level, matching they need.
I know there's been lots of discussion about pot pedals causing tone loss. When a pot pedal is backed off from full-on, there is a gradual loss of the high frequencies. For some of us, this is a desirable feature. When we play a solo, or a fill, the pedal approaches full on and the treble naturally increases. But when we are padding (playing support chords) we like the less-treble effect.
I run my pot pedal into the front of the amp because I like the change in high frequencies it provides. But, to each his own. Try both methods and choose which one you like. Both are good.
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Alvin Douglas
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Prince Edward Island
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Posted 28 Mar 2014 6:57 am
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Practiced this am with the volume pedal connected to the pre point of attachment. IMO the sound is different that when the pedal is used as a series I/P device. Speculation but I am guessing I hear the difference between the pedal being used for biasing vs. signal reduction. Overall I think the tone is more evenly balanced. I was loosing tone on the low end strings and thought the high end was becoming shrill. It feels as though that is gone. Interesting that the progression of the pedal is now different. Almost as though the amp reacts to a shorter pedal swing. I intend to continue using it this way. Thanks for your help.
Alvin
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