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Topic: Poppin them 0.11's |
Nick Reed
From:
Russellville, KY USA
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Posted 28 Sep 2003 9:36 pm |
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| How many times have you been playing a gig, and while you were in the middle of a killer Steel break on the E9th. . .you popped that 3rd string. I play out nearly every weekend with my band and it happens every once in awhile. As a safety precaution, I usually change out the 0.11 after 8 to 10 hours of playing time regardless. I've found it really reduces the frustration, and my wife likes it better because she doesn't have to come and hold the flashlight when we're playing in a dark club. Take my advice boys. . .change out them 11's pretty often! NR |
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Roger Rettig
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Naples, FL
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Posted 29 Sep 2003 1:57 am
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Well, it's happened to me, but whether or not I was creating a 'killer steel break' at the time is less clear - you'd need to ask someone who might have been listening.
I don't panic at losing a '3rd', but if that fifth string goes, I'm up the creek without a paddle! I have to leave the band for five minutes if that happens....
RR |
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John Cox
From:
Texas, USA
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Posted 29 Sep 2003 5:27 am
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How often sould you change the 5th string? And do you think a thicker gauge would help?
J.C. |
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C Dixon
From:
Duluth, GA USA
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Posted 29 Sep 2003 5:30 am
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Roger Rettig
From:
Naples, FL
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Posted 29 Sep 2003 6:01 am
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I'll change the 3rd every three shows, and the 5th after six shows - it might be overly cautious, but....
...well, that's just how I am, okay?
PS: I use an 0.18 now - I wouldn't want it thicker than that.
Edit: I mean for my 5th string, of course!!!![This message was edited by Roger Rettig on 29 September 2003 at 10:20 AM.] |
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Erv Niehaus
From:
Litchfield, MN, USA
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Posted 29 Sep 2003 6:35 am
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I like a .12 gauge for the 3rd string. It seems to last longer and I get a richer, fuller tone from it.
Erv |
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David Doggett
From:
Bawl'mer, MD (formerly of MS, Nawluns, Gnashville, Knocksville, Lost Angeles, Bahsten. and Philly)
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Posted 29 Sep 2003 7:13 am
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Try the .0115 from Jagwire. Lloyd Green uses them and they are available from the Forum catalog, either as singles or in the LLoyd Green set. The .011 always sounded too faint to me and out of balance with the other strings. Also, they are so thin some of them break even while you are tuning it up. I tried .012, but they sounded a little too thick, and they also broke often, because the tension has to be too high to get a string that thick up to pitch.
I always wanted something in between, and then I discovered the Jagwires. Perfect. They sound balanced, and don't break as often. I've never had one break while tuning it up. But they will eventually break. So I try to put a new one on the night before each gig.
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Student of the Steel, Fessy S12U, Emmons S12 E9 P/P, Carter D12, Nashville 400, Fender Squire, Peavey Transtube Supreme into JBL 15", 1968 Gibson J50, '60s Kay arch-top, 7-string Raybro, customized Korean Regal square-neck, roundneck Dobro 90C, 1938 Conn Chu Berry tenor sax, '50s Berg mouthpiece, Hamilton upright piano, Casio keyboard. You make it, I'll play it (sort of).
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Nicholas Dedring
From:
Beacon, New York, USA
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Posted 29 Sep 2003 7:53 am
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| I also found myself breaking the .011s while tuning up to pitch. The .012s last longer once they're on, and don't break in the first thirty seconds of their lives, at least none of them have yet... it seems to put that high string a little more up front, without being shrill. |
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Randy Pettit
From:
North Texas USA
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Posted 29 Sep 2003 7:56 am
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| I have NEVER popped a Jagwire string, even after three months of use. |
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Michael Johnstone
From:
Sylmar,Ca. USA
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Posted 29 Sep 2003 9:26 am
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| That part of my life is now over and done since I got my Excel. It breaks absolutely no strings. I may put a new 3rd string on today because the one I've had on there for the last 20 or 30 gigs is starting to go dead on me. |
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Ray Minich
From:
Bradford, Pa. Frozen Tundra
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Posted 29 Sep 2003 10:41 am
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David Dogget..., thank you! your comment "The .011 always sounded too faint to me and out of balance with the other strings" means I'm not crazy afterall, I've been noticing the same behavior for a long time and thought it was just my pickup, until both the Dekley and the Emmons behaved the same way, couldn't figure it out for the life of me...
Thanks and regards... |
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Brad Sarno
From:
St. Louis, MO USA
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Posted 29 Sep 2003 3:57 pm
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I've heard that D'Addario .011's almost never break. Anyone tried them?
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Brad Sarno
Blue Jade Audio Mastering
St. Louis
http://home.earthlink.net/~bradsarno/
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Jody Sanders
From:
Magnolia,Texas, R.I.P.
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Posted 29 Sep 2003 6:25 pm
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| I change the 3rd, 4th, and 5th every week. So nice to have peace of mind. Jody. |
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Roger Osbourn
From:
Siloam Springs, Arkansas, USA
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Posted 30 Sep 2003 8:05 am
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| Johnny Cox delivered my MSA Millennium D10 to me in Tulsa on Memorial day weekend.I have played it a bunch at home.Thirty minutes in the morning while Delores and my mother-in-law are walking,I can play as loud as I want to then, and at least an hour every evening.We had the NEOSGA jamboree Saturday night and I finally put on a new .011 to have a peace of mind.This guitar has not broken a string in the four months I've had it.Imagine that.I guess I should put on a new set at least once a year but I usually don't think of changing strings until they start breaking.Roger |
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Kenny Davis
From:
Great State of Oklahoma
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Posted 30 Sep 2003 9:56 am
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Nick - Isn't 3rd string breakage due to the brand of guitar you play? 
Try a .012 with a .022W for the 6th, and you'll be set for hours of "killer" E9th licks! |
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Paddy Long
From:
Christchurch, New Zealand
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Posted 30 Sep 2003 2:41 pm
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| I've been using .012's on the third string for years now, they last a lot longer and sound a bit fatter as well. But I still put on a fresh one for a big gig - there's nothing worse than breaking strings in the middle of a set !! Be prepared. |
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Tony Prior
From:
Charlotte NC
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Posted 30 Sep 2003 4:19 pm
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I change the 3rd string the day before every gig..or weekend..whatever..it's a $.50 item on a several thousand dollar Instrument that is severly reduced use without it.
Doesn't make sense not to change it..at least to me anyway..
I have not broken a 3rd string on a gig in 2 years now..I have broken them at home though..between gigs...
Changing the string the day before allows time to polish the bridge, clean the roller and also allows time for the string to settle in...
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I am still waiting to play a killer lick..
tp |
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Joseph Barcus
From:
Volga West Virginia
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Posted 3 Oct 2003 7:40 am
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| Jags seem to be the only thing that worked on my (carter) when i had it, they would last two weeks instead of 3 days. but since i got this fessy i have not replaced no stings oh id say in the past 3 maybe 4 months. im just waiting to see how long it takes to pop it. take care Joe |
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Roger Rettig
From:
Naples, FL
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Posted 3 Oct 2003 8:31 am
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Wow!
If I left strings on for three or four months, I'd have to get a tetanus shot before I sat behind the steel!
RR
PS: I'm so tired of playing 'killer steel breaks on E9' that I've gone over to C6 for a few days....  |
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