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Andy Volk


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Post  Posted 21 Jan 2014 4:16 pm    
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Nothing out of the ordinary for jazz. I believe Herb Remington actually played it on an earlier recording that was local and not the hit that Price's version became.
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Post  Posted 21 Jan 2014 7:01 pm    
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Bill Hatcher

 

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Post  Posted 21 Jan 2014 9:45 pm    
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thanks doug!! the little 6 banger sounds nice!
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Jerome Hawkes


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Post  Posted 22 Jan 2014 4:04 am    
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Doug - that is a sweet sounding steel (& nice intro) - what is it?
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Post  Posted 22 Jan 2014 7:33 am    
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Andy Volk wrote:
Nothing out of the ordinary for jazz. I believe Herb Remington actually played it on an earlier recording that was local and not the hit that Price's version became.


Tadd Dameron's Lady Bird used this turnaround and it is appropriately called the Tadd Dameron turnaround. I've played it a thousand times without ever thinking of Night Life.
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Doug Beaumier


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Post  Posted 22 Jan 2014 8:13 am    
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Ah... I've heard some musicians talk about the Lady Bird intro but I never knew what it was. It's the Night Life intro!

The lap steel I'm playing is a 1940s National/Valco that I recently bought for $100. The body is beat up, but the guitar sounds good. It has the string-through pickup. I installed Rick Aiello's magnets and that helps to fatten up the tone.
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Greg Booth


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Post  Posted 22 Jan 2014 8:40 am    
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You can hear it in Charlie Parker's, "Parker's Mood" from 1948.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Nn_Nghem60
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Andy Volk


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Post  Posted 22 Jan 2014 9:00 am    
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And played quickly, in Miles' "Half Nelson" .... basically, the Lady Bird changes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLRpjbFuEsA

In the interview I did for my book (Lap Steel Guitar) Herb Remington said that he and Paul Buskirk arranged Night Life with that turnaround as an intro in their 1955 recording and that Buddy Emmons then used it in his recording with Ray Price.
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Greg Booth


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Post  Posted 22 Jan 2014 9:20 am    
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Herb Steiner wrote:
John Steele, jazz pianist that he is, is spot on as usual. I knew the correct Night Life intro, then I heard it on "Parker's Mood," and a light bulb went on. Then a saxophone player heard me play it and called it the "Tadd Dameron intro."

The Eb to D resolution is what I learned as the "Flat 9 substitution," and I play it so often I consider it a cliche'.

A C#(Db) D#(Eb) G = A7b5

Eb G Db A = Eb7#11

What the chord is depends on what the bass player is playing, of course, but generally goes by so fast that it works regardless if the bassist is playing the 5 note or the b9 note.

Almost by default, when I see a dominant chord seeking a chord a fourth higher, I'll arpeggiate a #11 chord one half step above just before the resolution.

Buddy, Jernigan, et al. use it all the time.

Here's Tadd Dameron, the man who wrote the "Night Life" intro:


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Post  Posted 22 Jan 2014 9:31 am    
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUU1vlz7CV4


Time to look for another turnaround! Smile

Actually, now that I've figured it out on my steel, I'm gonna use it to death. The real reason I wanted learn it is for the Eb7#11--I need as many dominant voicings as I can find, because my tuning doesn't have one built into it, and frankly, I'm tired of all the default dominant voicings anyway.
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Greg Booth


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Post  Posted 22 Jan 2014 10:11 am    
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Awesome slant Mike!
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Tom Wolverton


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Post  Posted 22 Jan 2014 10:25 am    
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What Greg said, nice warm chord with that slant.
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Andy Volk


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Post  Posted 22 Jan 2014 10:54 am    
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That Clinesmith sounds great on those full, rich chords, Mike!
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Post  Posted 22 Jan 2014 10:57 am    
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The best part is that all the chords are just 3 notes, except for the tonic I hit at the end.
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Kurt Kowalski

 

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Post  Posted 22 Jan 2014 5:03 pm    
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Greg, great ears on Parker's Mood
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Post  Posted 22 Jan 2014 7:08 pm    
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Mike Neer


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Post  Posted 23 Jan 2014 8:11 am    
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Some tab for 8 string C6 (E C A G E C A F):



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Andy Volk


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Post  Posted 23 Jan 2014 8:49 am    
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Cool thread. After trying out everyone's tab here's where I finally settled for 6-string C6th ....



The substitute chord for the F9 I usually think of as a D7 - not the right sub for F9 - but to my ear, it works find with that high A pedal tone.
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Greg Booth


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Post  Posted 23 Jan 2014 9:45 am    
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Doug, your E13 intro sounds great. You play beautifully. I miss hearing the #11 chord though, to me it's not the classic Night Life intro without it. No offense intended. Kurt, thanks, but the Parker tune was pointed out by John Steele. I just found it on YouTube.
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Andy Volk


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Post  Posted 23 Jan 2014 9:54 am    
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Hey Doug - do you use a rolling the bar vibrato or a forwards/backwards motion. It looks very economical in terms of the motion gets has a very soulful rate of well, warble (for want of a better word).
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Marino Galli

 

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Post  Posted 23 Jan 2014 10:24 am    
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Hi Doug,
Please E13 Tab too !!!!
Thanks for your wonderful playing!
Love that " sound ".
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Doug Beaumier


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Post  Posted 23 Jan 2014 10:32 am    
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Thanks Greg, Andy, Marino, and others. Yes, I'm missing the #11 chord in my E13 version. It's probably accessible on this tuning, but I've been playing it this way for so long, old habits are hard to break.

Andy, I used to move the bar back and forth, but for the past couple of years I've been trying to roll the bar more... since I read that's how Buddy Emmons does it. Winking

About 30 years ago an excellent rhythm guitarist showed me a cool ending for the song SleepWalk: C, Eb, Abmaj7, Db9, C6 (or C6/9). I played that ending on SleepWalk for many years without realizing that it's basically the Night Life turnaround! I stopped playing it a couple of years ago though, and I try to play the original ending instead.
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Andy Volk


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Post  Posted 23 Jan 2014 10:42 am    
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My vibrato needs first aid. I'll try the rolling method. Thanks Doug.

One more example ... Wes plays that turn around at 4:38.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TeMr4SQtWGo
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Mark Roeder


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Post  Posted 23 Jan 2014 2:56 pm    
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Thanks for all the great ideas!
I have a high major 7 in the 8th string spot on my 8-string. So I can get that A at the 10th fret in the Bb. The A in every chord is what I hear as the main characteristic of that intro every though I can't get everything.
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Post  Posted 24 Jan 2014 2:01 pm    
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Mike Neer wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUU1vlz7CV4


Time to look for another turnaround! Smile

Actually, now that I've figured it out on my steel, I'm gonna use it to death. The real reason I wanted learn it is for the Eb7#11--I need as many dominant voicings as I can find, because my tuning doesn't have one built into it, and frankly, I'm tired of all the default dominant voicings anyway.


Great sound Mike as usual. You and I are hopefully carrying on the ghostings of my Hero Reece Anderson. What you are missing is Reece's D on the bottom. I play the exact same tuning one tone up in E. its an Em11. On an 8 string cause sadly I lost my 10 string to theft. But can do pretty much every chord mentioned. Haven't come across any chords that I can't cover. Reece was truly onto something special. I hope to continue building on it. Keep posting your playing is inspiring.

My take on it is. E, G, B, D, F#, A, B, D - Lo - hi. It makes your lap steel a truly solo instrument. its Reece's D, F, A, C, E, G, A, C
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