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Les Cargill

 

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Oklahoma City, Ok, USA
Post  Posted 19 Jan 2014 7:58 pm    
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Need bellcranks, (maybe) pullrods, those brass barrels with a hex screw that tie bellcranks and pull rods together. and some of those Sho-Bud barrel tuners*. Just wanting to establish a contact for now. I'm still calculating quantities.


*it's a 2-raise, 2-lower changer, and I need three raises on three strings.
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Lane Gray


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Topeka, KS
Post  Posted 20 Jan 2014 4:54 am    
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Jim Palenscar of Steel Guitars of North County:
www.steelguitars.me

Tom Bradshaw
www.songwriter.com/bradshaw

Both have MSA parts. There's an L-shaped gizmo that will allow an adjacent segment to pull its neighbor. Not Tom and Jim should have those.
If you prefer the Bud approach, James Morehead is your guy. I got his number somewhere.
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Les Cargill

 

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Oklahoma City, Ok, USA
Post  Posted 20 Jan 2014 5:38 am    
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Thanks, Lane.

Anybody know what those brass barrels that connect the bellcranks to the pull rods are called?

Anybody know what the "L-shaped gizmo" to which Lane refers is called? How it works? After a couple weeks doing searches, it seemed like the Sho-Bud tuners were the way to get 3 raises out of a 2-raise changer.

It'd have to be something that only pulls the rod when that bellcrank is engaged, so it'd have to be adjustable somehow.
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Paul Wade


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Post  Posted 20 Jan 2014 6:38 am     msa parts
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les,

i have the "L" shape gizmo. and brass rod holders
send me a P.M message

p.w
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Lane Gray


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Topeka, KS
Post  Posted 20 Jan 2014 6:46 am    
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Here's a picture that John McClung drew of the Bradshaw Gizmo. A major hats-off to Tom for thinking of this thing.


The drawing doesn't make it completely clear, but it can go up, down, or across. It can't go diagonally.
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Lane Gray


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Post  Posted 20 Jan 2014 6:50 am    
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Those spacer tubes will have to get cut down, I think they'll need to be 3/4".
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Les Cargill

 

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Post  Posted 20 Jan 2014 11:11 am    
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Lane, thanks so much for your time.

That "Bradshaw L" is cool. I apologize if I should have found that by searching the Forum; I did that after reading your post this morning and my Google-fu failed.

I think I need an additional raise on strings 4, 5 and 6. Each of them , I want 3 raises*. There's an "extra raise" available on 3 & 7. So I'd only be able to use the "Bradshaw L" on 4 & 6, correct?

The third raise on string 5 would be for the 7 pedal,
the "raise 5-B to C# and raise G#-6 to A#" in the
B6 scheme of things.

*that gets me to a variation on a U12 7x4 copedent
that seems to cover a lot of B6 pulls.
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Lane Gray


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Post  Posted 20 Jan 2014 2:33 pm    
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Unless you plan to lower 5 to A# AND to A (the X lever and Franklin pedal), you can use a Bradshaw Gizmo running vertically, so that the upper of the two lower holes actually lowers 5.
So the third 4th raise can come from either the 4th lower OR the 3rd raise, the third 5th raise must come from the 5th lower, and the third 6th raise can come from the 6th lower or 7th raise. That's what I meant when I said it can go vertically or horizontally.
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Les Cargill

 

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Post  Posted 20 Jan 2014 4:05 pm    
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Thanks much for clarifying. That makes sense - a hole is a hole, whether it's a raise or a lower. Schweet!
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Les Cargill

 

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Oklahoma City, Ok, USA
Post  Posted 1 Feb 2014 7:35 pm    
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So I went with Jim Palenscar @ North County. The parts are all here, and they're gorgeous. Fantastic work, speedy turnaround.
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