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Ron Scott
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Michigan
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Posted 10 Jan 2014 7:40 pm |
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I know we had steel players on the Man of Steel Movie and I don't know if anyone mentioned about the credits or not but here they are. Chas Smith, Marty Rifkin,Skip Edwards, Boo Bernstein,Peter Frieberger, Rick Schmidt, JD Maness, John McClung. If there were any others I did not see them.Hope this is alright to mention and if not Bob please remove..RS
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Tony Glassman
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Marty Muse
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Austin,Tx USA
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Posted 13 Jan 2014 3:07 pm
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| Hey Tony. The link you put up was for the documentary film I have been working on with Jeff Himpele tentatively titled Men Of Steel and not the Man Of Steel blockbuster that came out last year that included all of these fine steel players contributing to the score. Sorry about the confusion, a definite downside to using that title. |
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Chris Lucker
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Los Angeles, California USA
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Posted 13 Jan 2014 3:28 pm
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It is also the title of the book about Maurice Anderson
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Marty Muse
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Austin,Tx USA
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Posted 13 Jan 2014 3:53 pm
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| Yeah Chris, it's a pretty well worn metaphor and especially here in the world of steel guitar. It also seems to be a title that people like. I'm a bit torn on the title but fortunately I don't have to decide on anything until it's completed so we shall see... |
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Chris Lucker
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Los Angeles, California USA
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Posted 13 Jan 2014 4:04 pm
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How about "Persons of Steel?"
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Roy Heap
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United Kingdom
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Posted 14 Jan 2014 2:30 am
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| So tell us Marty how is this project of yours progressing ? |
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Roger Rettig
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Naples, FL
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Posted 14 Jan 2014 2:57 am
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Can someone de-confuse me here? We had to sit through 'Man Of Steel' here at home the other night - my wife was loaned a copy and I said: 'There's supposed to be steel in the score - might be interesting!'
IS there steel in the score? I couldn't hear anything (unless it was very subtly mixed as chord-pads) and the downside was having to sit through two hours of the most gratuitous and violent drivel ever!
I know it's just fantasy and is an extension of those early comic-books but, as silly as it is, I'm not sure that children should be fed this kind of nonsense.
An evening wasted - we should have turned on Turner Classic Movies!
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David Mason
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Cambridge, MD, USA
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Posted 14 Jan 2014 6:01 am
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Hollywood is locked into a spiral wherein each blockbuster has to be more blockbustery than the last one, so Superman is competing against James Bond who's competing against Pirates of the Caribbean which is competing against the giant brain-sucking spiders from the timewarp... an actual plot just gets in the way of blowing crap up. I remember quite some time ago walking out of a Bond movie because Pierce Brosnan had just picked up a little machine pistol and slaughtered a room full of 40 or 50 Chinese soldiers; I didn't begrudge him the bullets, but a real Bond would've found a much sneakier way out. Without spilling his martini.  |
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Roger Rettig
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Naples, FL
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Posted 14 Jan 2014 10:42 am
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I've come to despair of movies. The last time I paid to go to the cinema was for 'Ray' (which was actually rather good) but this recent experience with that mind-numbingly stupid film, 'Man Of Steel', has confirmed that I'd do well to stay away from cinemans permanently.
Who are they pandering to??? Who actually likes this garbage? I can't wait for TCM to play 'Brief Encounter', 'Double Indemnity' or 'The Grapes Of Wrath' again. The world's gone mad.
My question stands, though - IS there any steel in that Superman film soundtrack or not?
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Roger Rettig: Emmons D10, B-bender Teles and Martins - and, at last, a Gibson Super 400!
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Peter Freiberger
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Posted 14 Jan 2014 10:55 am
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| There is steel in the soundtrack, but one would be hard pressed to identify it. Hans used the sounds we generated as a part of a much larger orchestral and electronic palette. He is well known for integrating non-traditional elements into his scoring; samples, sound design, etc., as well as the traditional elements. If you're listening for the sound of traditional steel guitar there's already plenty of that out there, but not in this film. For me at least, what is really exciting here is a completely new use of the instrument, regardless of what one thinks of the film. We can't go on playing "Way To Survive" forever. I'm going to go look in my closet for my flame-proof suit now... |
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Roger Rettig
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Naples, FL
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Posted 14 Jan 2014 11:03 am
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Don't misunderstand me, Peter - I wasn't dying to hear a bunch of E9 licks. If it's in there then I'm delighted and I'm all for the steel guitar's sonic possibilities being fully exploited. After all, it may mean a session or two for me somewhere down the road.
The music may have been the best part of the film, come to think of it. I promise I'm not a proponent of steel guitar staying exactly where it is for the next fifty years.
Thanks for answering my question.
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Marty Muse
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Austin,Tx USA
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Posted 21 Jan 2014 8:19 am
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| Hey Roy thanks for inquiring about the project. We are making slow steady progress and nearing the end of production on this film. Now comes the hard part. If you are interested in tracking our progress there is a website—www.steelguitarmovie.com—where you can check out anything new with the project as well as sign up for a mailing list. We have not sent anything out to our mailing list thus far but hope to get that ramped up here in 2014. We appreciate the interest and support from you and all Forumites. Thank you! |
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Godfrey Arthur
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3rd Rock
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Posted 17 Sep 2014 12:21 am
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I watched the trailer preview and was intrigued. As a rank novice in pedal steel guitar I found it interesting to see and hear some of the history put forth by those that know more about the genre than I do and were there when it started.
Making any sort of film or video is not an easy task. I have worked on professional films before and the logistics alone are daunting, let alone coming up with a storyboard, the expensive high res equipment, lighting, camera angles, the production value and props, permissions to film on location, gathering the talent.
Editing and color grading!!! 
In the Men of Steel docu, I like that there were visual theme's, the use of a vintage car, vintage plane, and using those shots reoccurring, segueing into another technology. It showed some attention to that 3rd dimension, the visual story content, not just the audio and interviews.
I hope you get this completed. There is an audience for this no matter the derision thrown. That you even video capture pioneers is already worth the trouble you are going through. The rest is eye and ear candy as well as informative. It will be worth more as time goes on.
As far as going to blockbuster movies in cinemas, I'm here to tell you with all the censoring, it's a waste of time and money. Better to get the DVD release uncut versions so you can see what the director/playwright had in mind. After a movie gets sliced, diced and "Popeil'ed" (sorry Ron) it's nothing related to the original intention of the movie. First impressions are lasting and with a hacked up movie, you get shortchanged and misled.
I know Hollywood is in a tizzy right now, and that there are many directors aching to tell a real story, but there are barriers to that and they know who/what they are.
Was a BTS done for Men of Steel?
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chas smith R.I.P.
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Encino, CA, USA
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Posted 17 Sep 2014 12:42 pm
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To support what Peter said,the steel guitar is all over that score, including the bass steel guitar,on the bottom. Anytime you are listening to the score and you don't recognize what you're listening to, it was most likely us. Keep in mind, the score is there to support the film, if it draws your attention to itself and away from the film, there's a problem.
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Roger, the Entertainment business isn't about making great films or music, it's about making money. |
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Roger Rettig
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Posted 17 Sep 2014 1:12 pm
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Chas:
I'd like to believe that there are films and music made that aspire to greater heights. Much of it is dross but every so often there's a diamond in the rough. Merchant-Ivory movies come to mind.
Mostly, though, it's determined by the lowest common denominators at work in the market place.
My appreciation goes to you and everyone concerned with making the soundtrack. My comments were directed at the film's premise and certainly not the quality of the music therein.
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Roger Rettig: Emmons D10, B-bender Teles and Martins - and, at last, a Gibson Super 400!
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chas smith R.I.P.
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Encino, CA, USA
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Posted 17 Sep 2014 6:03 pm
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| I'd like to believe that there are films and music made that aspire to greater heights. |
Absolutely. In simple terms, the director has a vision for what he wants to do, and he and the producers choose a composer to deliver the appropriate sound track. But then, the bigger the budget, the more the "suits" are going to be involved and they don't want to take a chance on losing a lot of money, so they're going to go for the "formula", which is why most of the summer movies look exactly like last year's summer movies and most of the sound tracks sound alike.
Years ago, when I worked for Thomas Newman, every temp dub he got was based on Shawshank Redemption or American Beauty. They just wanted him to keep repeating himself, and if he wanted to get paid, he had to keep doing variations on what he had already done. Every now and then, there would be a company that had some imagination and let him do what he wanted, but those were rare occasions.
Way back, we were working on Horse Whisperer and there was a scene where there was a slo-mo of the horse's head and neck that looked like a whale jumping out of the ocean. Tom had a Db maj7 thing that followed it up and it was just perfect. Nope, Bob doesn't like minor 2nds and they scrapped it. |
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