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Jean-Sebastien Gauthier


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Quebec, Canada
Post  Posted 9 Jan 2014 2:31 pm    
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A jazz guitar teacher told me a couple of year ago that to have a good swing feel on 8th note you must down pick on the beat and up pick on the offbeat, if you have quarter notes you just down pick and you up pick on the offbeat.

I wonder if I should use the same technic on steel? Thumpick on beat and finger pick on offbeat?

What you do guys?
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Christopher Woitach


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Portland, Oregon, USA
Post  Posted 10 Jan 2014 2:26 pm    
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First off all, while it is true that alternate picking is the norm for jazz, there are many other techniques players use that still swing - Charlie Christian, mainly downstrokes, Jimmy Bruno, economy picking, lots of players, hybrid picking.... Just a couple examples

I think the same is true on steel - Buddy Emmons seems to pick multiple notes in a row with thumb, same with his middle finger, other players use three or four pick blocked fingers....

I must say, I have tried, and still try, alternating thumb and middle along the same lines as you're suggesting, but it seems to depend on the specific line as to whether or not it helps
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Jean-Sebastien Gauthier


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Post  Posted 13 Jan 2014 3:23 pm    
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Make sense, thanks Christopher
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Chris Lucker

 

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Post  Posted 13 Jan 2014 9:31 pm    
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I think it has more to do with how you are playing in the context of the rest of the musicians.

If you are all playing the same way, technically, or on paper it may swing, but it will be sterile.
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Herb Steiner

 

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Post  Posted 15 Jan 2014 7:29 pm    
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"Swinging" is how a player feels and expresses himself through music by note choice and phrasing. It's a lot easier to identify when a player is swinging than it is to describe how he's doing it.

It also has to do with the way a lead instrumentalist reacts to the cohesiveness or lack of same by the rhythm section. "Swing" is a group endeavor. IOW, if the bass and drums aren't feeling the music the same way, nobody is swinging.
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