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Topic: Early Roy Smeck double neck |
Chris Lucker
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Andy Volk
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Posted 10 Jan 2014 4:21 pm |
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That is way too cool.
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Chris Lucker
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Posted 10 Jan 2014 5:12 pm
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Did you see how crude the blade cut out is for the pickup? And all those deeply countersunk holes. And the screw heads for fret markers. Does this think look like a prototype or a reworked guitar with the original finish removed? I have no clue.
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Doug Beaumier
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Northampton, MA
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Gregg McKenna
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South Windsor, Connecticut, USA
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Chris Lucker
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Los Angeles, California USA
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Posted 10 Jan 2014 7:38 pm
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Does anyone understand why what the seller calls the B string pole is dead 0n a pickup where it has a s ingle blade?
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Stephen Cowell
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Posted 10 Jan 2014 8:56 pm
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I'm worried about the 2.1ohm and 2.3ohm pickup windings... if that is indeed what they're measuring. I know folks forget to put the 'K' on their measurements here on the forum.. but that's a picture of an ohmmeter with 2.1ohms measured! That's not a lot of winding, IMO. Perhaps the volume control is way down, or something... hard to tell from the picture what the clips are on.
Frankly, I'd give it a pass... looks too home-brew for me.
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Doug Beaumier
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Posted 10 Jan 2014 10:43 pm
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I've read that many early (1930s) steel guitar pickups, including the Rick fry pan, were only wound to about 3K ohms, but the huge magnet was part of the reason they sounded so strong. If that's true, I wouldn't worry too much about the low resistance readings on the ohmmeter. The guitar has four hefty magnets inside, although the seller says one is not working... probably a wiring problem.
The seller has sold a lot of vintage guitars and he has good feedback. I'm surprised that he so freely uses the words "GIBSON", "ROY SMECK RECORDING KING", and "EH150100" in the Title. I think he's going out on a limb. He says it was obviously made by Gibson. I'm not so sure about that. It looks kind of rough and home made. Possibly Gibson tuners and bridges though. And I'm surprised that he's offering "Free Shipping Worldwide" with no reserve price and a low opening bid. That's risky. It this thing sells for a low price and the buyer is on the other side of the world, the seller will probably break even after paying the shipping, the eBay fees and the PayPal fees, unless he got the guitar for nothing. 
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Stephen Cowell
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Round Rock, Texas, USA
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Posted 11 Jan 2014 6:58 am
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| Doug Beaumier wrote: |
| I've read that many early (1930s) steel guitar pickups, including the Rick fry pan, were only wound to about 3K ohms, but the huge magnet was part of the reason they sounded so strong. |
OK, just trying to make this more clearer-er... there is *three* orders of magnitude difference between 2ohms and 2Kohms... 2Kohms is *one thousand* times more than 2ohms. The meter in the picture is showing *2ohms*... I've never measured any pickup that worked at that ohmage.
Here's the Wiki on wire resistance:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_wire_gauge
... 40AWG wire is listed at right about 1ohm per foot... there should be more feet than that in there.
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Ian McLatchie
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Posted 11 Jan 2014 9:39 am
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| Gibson parts do not a Gibson make. No way on earth this is a Gibson factory guitar. |
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Doug Beaumier
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John Dahms
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Perkasie, Pennsylvania, USA
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Posted 11 Jan 2014 1:59 pm
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It's a turd.
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Andy Volk
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Boston, MA
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Posted 11 Jan 2014 2:42 pm
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Clearly not as advertised; homemade, funky, broken. Still cool.
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Tom Pettingill
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Posted 11 Jan 2014 3:32 pm
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Good catch Stephan. That is a very expensive multimeter, so it should be accurate. If those were actually 2.3k and 2.1k, then that would sound plausible for a pickup of that period wound with 38 wire.
I'm not at all sure what to make of it, but as Andy points out, pretty cool old piece for sure. I guess I could see it as maybe being some sort of proof of concept / sample / prototype kind of thing.
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Scott Thomas
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Posted 11 Jan 2014 6:47 pm
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| It doesn't take too close of a look to see that the tolerances are all over the map. Compare where the knobs are placed on one side in relation to the other. Obvioulsy "eyeballed", as are the crude looking cut outs for the slotted head stock. The side by side comparison shows that there is no consistent measurement. These are just the least of many other obvious things that scream "home made workshop project" to me. |
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