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Bob Hoffnar


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Austin, Tx
Post  Posted 6 Jan 2014 11:40 am    
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I am going to shorten the rods/legs on my PP Emmons so I am buying a tap and die set.

What is the thread size on the rods ? I might not need it because it looks like there is plenty of thread already. But I want it just in case I do need it.

What do you guys do for shortening the legs ?
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Chris Lucker

 

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Los Angeles, California USA
Post  Posted 6 Jan 2014 12:09 pm    
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The threads are 10-32 for 3/16ths rods, and 8-32 for the skinnier LeGRande rods which are 5/32.

But, the threads are not cut with a die, they are rolled. You will get a sloppier fit with cut threads.

Which rods do you have? I have five different versions of Emmons pedal rods in my parts pile, and a lot are short. How many, how long and which version?

I also have shorter legs in my parts pile. Let me know the length and collet style you have.
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Kurt Kowalski

 

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Kendall, NY USA
Post  Posted 7 Jan 2014 5:46 am    
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Bob,
If you don't need oem/original legs
I would suggest calling Sammy aging son up in Mass.

He will make you a set of lightweight aluminum legs that will surprise you... For about the cost of modifying your originals.

I have a set and the lightened up the load immensely.

Thanks for the pickup bro!
Kurt
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John Davis


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Cambridge, U.K.
Post  Posted 7 Jan 2014 11:15 am    
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Bob, I have a set that have been lowered by about 1 inch and I am looking to replace them with standard legs.... could we swap?? I am gonna have to find the 3 rods aswell Confused
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Donny Hinson

 

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Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
Post  Posted 7 Jan 2014 3:03 pm    
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Chris Lucker wrote:
...the threads are not cut with a die, they are rolled. You will get a sloppier fit with cut threads.


Only if the one who does the threading doesn't know what he's doing! Wink

Chris, where I work, we probably buy hundreds of thousands of screws each year, and our experience is that the "rolled is better (more accurate) than cut" argument simply isn't true. (The "go/no-go" guages tell the real story.) Screw manufacturers like rolled threads because they offer a substantial cost saving, and they also reduce the amount of chips and spent cutting fluids, which now require controlled disposal.
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Chris Lucker

 

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Los Angeles, California USA
Post  Posted 7 Jan 2014 3:18 pm    
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Clearly, I don't know how to cut threads with a die or on a lathe.
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Bob Snelgrove


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san jose, ca
Post  Posted 7 Jan 2014 3:37 pm     Re: Need Emmons Rod/legs info
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Bob Hoffnar wrote:
I am going to shorten the rods/legs on my PP Emmons so I am buying a tap and die set.

What is the thread size on the rods ? I might not need it because it looks like there is plenty of thread already. But I want it just in case I do need it.

What do you guys do for shortening the legs ?


Pop out the threaded part and use a good tubing cutter for the legs. The rears might abjust in an inch but not always.

bob
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Jerry Roller


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Van Buren, Arkansas USA
Post  Posted 8 Jan 2014 5:23 pm    
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Bob, I would trade legs with someone rather than going to the hassle of shortening the legs. I would also talk with Chris Lucker. He is very generous about helping out guys with problems such as you have when given a chance.
Jerry
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John Davis


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Cambridge, U.K.
Post  Posted 9 Jan 2014 12:12 am    
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I have now given up on finding someone to swap with and have ordered a new set from Gary Sill Confused Oh Well Wink
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