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Chuck Morel

 

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Pottersville, New York
Post  Posted 7 Jan 2014 4:13 am    
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I need to replace my existing VP and am currently looking in to the Ernie Ball VP Jr passive VP with tuner jack. Anyone currently using this pedal and if so how do you like it. I just can't spring for a Hilton.
Thanks. Chuck.
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Dennis Wireman

 

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North West Indiana 47978
Post  Posted 7 Jan 2014 4:41 am     pedal
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might won't to get you one of these nice pedal and light weight no string to break

http://bb.steelguitarforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=256947

and doug is great to deal with I got one and like it real well
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Sean Borton

 

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Winnipeg Manitoba, Canada
Post  Posted 7 Jan 2014 6:06 am    
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The Ernie Ball VP JR comes in two versions. 25k, and 250k. The 25k will only work right if you put it after a buffered pedal. The 250k will work straight from the guitar, but high end will suffer. Normally you would want a 500k pot (give or take a little).

The tuner out is also parallel. That means if you plug the guitar to the pedal, then turn a tuner on - it "may" load the guitar down more providing unpredictable results.

FWIW - I did try my Ernie Ball (250k) with my steel and did not like it but that does not mean you won't.
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Jim Palenscar

 

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Oceanside, Calif, USA
Post  Posted 7 Jan 2014 7:25 am    
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Be careful in what you choose as you do not want a pedal that has the jacks in the front as it will cause you to have to move your pedal too close to you due to interference with your pedal bar.
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Roger Rettig


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Naples, FL
Post  Posted 7 Jan 2014 11:08 am    
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Quite right, Jim. I had a Dunlop as a spare that had front-placed jacks - better than no spare at all but jolly awkward!
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Dave Grafe


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Hudson River Valley NY
Post  Posted 7 Jan 2014 11:24 am    
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The Ernie Ball Jr. pedal has a number of issues for pedal steel guitar that cannot be worked around, thus is not a good choice at all. The original Ernie Ball VP's had the proper sealed, 500KOhm pots and a small pulley which allowed the pedal action to activate 90% of the pot travel - you could not get both full-on and full-off but could come reasonably close to doing so. The EB Jr. pedal not only does not have the proper pot installed but the pulley is much larger diameter and only about 60% of the pot's travel can be utilized, making it completely unsuitable for use with pedal steel guitar.

If you must have an Ernie Ball pedal for your pedal steel guitar then hold off until you can find the full sized one.
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J R Rose

 

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Keota, Oklahoma, USA
Post  Posted 7 Jan 2014 2:24 pm    
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Contact Doug and get you one of the new Stage One.
Got mine and like it very much. Good price also. J.R.
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Chuck Morel

 

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Pottersville, New York
Post  Posted 8 Jan 2014 7:30 am     Volume pedal
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Thanks to all who reached out. I have looked at the new StageOne vp and like what I see. My question to you guys is: Are you using the pedal in line with a processor and a tuner? If so,how are you putting it in the loop and is it handeling it ok. What I have is simple, I just want to know the StageOne will work with it. I use an older model Lexicon MPX-100 processor and a Behringer Racktuner. Any advise would be helpful.
Thanks, Chuck
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Lane Gray


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Topeka, KS
Post  Posted 8 Jan 2014 4:28 pm    
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Because I don't like having the reverb tail squashed by the volume pedal, I would put the MPX100 AFTER the volume pedal, and I'd use the front jack of the tuner, unplugging it when not tuning. You should put your attention to your EARS for tuning while playing, not watching the pretty lights.
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Greg Cutshaw


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Corry, PA, USA
Post  Posted 8 Jan 2014 5:36 pm    
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You can add a tuner jack to most any pedal and isolate the jack with a 100k ohm resistor to prevent the tuner from affecting the tone in any big way. Or just use a patch cord with an attenuator in it.


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Chuck Morel

 

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Pottersville, New York
Post  Posted 9 Jan 2014 6:47 am     volume pedal
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Lane, I appreaciate the advice. I'm well aware of tuning while you play from playing bass for 25 years. Pedal steel is much more challanging to me and I limit tuning to only after a tune has been played or during break. Hopefully tuning as you go will become easier as time passes but for now, I'll watch the pretty lights.

Greg, thanks for your advise as well, the cord sounds like a good idea. Where might I find this and what is an approx cost.

Thanks. Chuck
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