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Topic: 8 Pedals, 1 Knee lever, for newbee??? |
Pete Burak
From: Portland, OR USA
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Posted 17 Sep 2003 7:50 am
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Just looking for some opinions.
A local fellow, new to PSG, called me for some advice, as he is concidering buying a used steel, which has 8 pedals and 1 knee lever.
I haven't seen the steel yet so I'm not sure what the copedant is.
I'm told it is a D10, and the price seems reasonable (although I haven't seen the steel yet).
Disregarding price and brand for the moment, what would be your advice to a newbee concidering a D10, 8x1?
Thanks in advance for your opinion.
~pb
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C Dixon
From: Duluth, GA USA
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Posted 17 Sep 2003 8:09 am
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If it was going to remain 8 x 1, I would suggest it be identical to a standard 8 x 4 D-10, with the following exceptions.
Do away with every knee lever change, except:
1. Lower the E's on E9th
2. Lower the 3rd string a half a tone on C6.
And then pray every day that Jesus would somehow lead him to a way he could add the other 3 knee levers,
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DJ Sillito
From: Lethbrige, Alberta, Canada
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Posted 17 Sep 2003 8:48 am
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I second Carl's post. Whatever the brand is if it doesn't have the ability to add levers or adding levers is difficult etc. I can only see him getting frustrated with the E9th
as he progressed with his learning. When I started I had an MSA student 3f 1K and it lowered the 2nd string 1/2 tone. I didn't know any better at the time but it was almost useless really. if your trying to learn from tab with standard changes it is a real pain. If the price is right and it can be modified go for it. Otherwise look on the forum for an entry guitar with 2 to four levers. I saw a Maverick posted with 3f and 4k for a reasonable price. If I started from scratch again that's the route I would take IMHO. Whatever the choice I wish your friend the best of luck and give him credit for deciding to tackle the steel.
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Bengt Erlandsen
From: Brekstad, NORWAY
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Posted 17 Sep 2003 2:06 pm
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If it is possible to change raise/lowers without too much trouble seems like a good opportunity to try Ralph Mooney's setup for the E9 and a standard C6 setup for the back neck.
Bengt Erlandsen[This message was edited by Bengt Erlandsen on 17 September 2003 at 03:07 PM.] |
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Tony Prior
From: Charlotte NC
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Posted 17 Sep 2003 2:11 pm
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What Carl said..except..
if it as an old Sho Bud Professional..(just guessing, 8+1)
Jesus may send you to Duane Marrs for the additional 3 knee levers..
good luck
tp
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Donny Hinson
From: Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
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Posted 17 Sep 2003 3:02 pm
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Carl's advice is right on. The 8+1 will keep anyone busy for a year or two. Later, he can decide to upgrade or get a new one. |
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Jerry Roller
From: Van Buren, Arkansas USA
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Posted 17 Sep 2003 6:00 pm
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That could be an Emmons wraparound and if so
......!!
Jerry |
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Jim Cohen
From: Philadelphia, PA
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Posted 17 Sep 2003 6:15 pm
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Hey Pete! Looks like you and I are pretty much in the same boat. Didja see this thread?: http://steelguitarforum.com/Forum5/HTML/006208.html LOL.
By the way, did you get that photo I sentcha and pass it on to your dad?
Cheers,
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Pete Burak
From: Portland, OR USA
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Posted 18 Sep 2003 7:00 am
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This is an interesting situation.
I'm told this is a mid 70's Emmons D10 with 8x1.
It had not been listed for sale yet.
The buyer had placed an ad 'looking for a PSG' in a local buy&sell, so the seller had no reason to sell untill he read that ad.
I'm told the seller found it in the attack of his Grampa's place, where it has been for some 25 years or so.
A real sleeper as they say.
I reccomended that the young man, who has first dibs on this axe, "buy it!".
I linked him with Mike Cass' site, as well as Bobbe's SGN site.
I have also linked him to local PP guru Larry Behm, as this axe may need some TLC.
He said he may have it upgraded to 4 or 5 KL's.
I am hoping to see this axe in person later this week.
I'm told the buyer, a guitar player looking to get into PSG, will aquire this axe for less than the cost of a new Carter Starter.
You can imagine the impending anxiety attack I had, as the seller lives only minutes from my home.
Alas, I'm an S12U player, and I'm sure by the time this axe is brought up to 8x5 and restored, it would be close to the cost of an existing D10 8x5 PP.
But man!... This guy really stepped in it, in a good way!
I'll report out on the details of this axe when I get a look at it.
~pb
[This message was edited by Pete Burak on 18 September 2003 at 08:01 AM.] |
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Pete Burak
From: Portland, OR USA
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Posted 19 Sep 2003 3:53 pm
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Holy Grail, Batman!
It's a Wrap Around, Black mica!
Sounded killer through his 100W Mesa tube head w/ 2-12's! (I restrung the E9 neck).
Emmons "sticker" on the front. Looks like a very early model.
More info and pics to come in the next few days (I hope!).
~pb
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