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Gary Cooper

 

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Post  Posted 20 Dec 2013 10:13 am    
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When watching the great PSG players, they seem to be looking more at their left hand and not the right hand. How long does it take to feel that comfortable with the right hand grips and string groupings?
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Richard Sinkler


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Post  Posted 20 Dec 2013 10:48 am    
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How long it takes differs between players. I know some that have been playing over 10 years that still glance at their right hand. Then I also know one that has been playing less than a year that doesn't look at his right hand. It just takes a lot of practice, just like anything else on this instrument.
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Dale Rivard

 

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Post  Posted 20 Dec 2013 11:10 am    
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Hi Gary,

You definitely want to be looking at your left hand. And actually, I keep my eyes on the fret line (marker) more than I do my left hand or the bar. This hand controls tuning (intonation). Try and keep the bar on and straight to the fret line. How long does it take to feel comfortable with the right hand grips? There is no 1 answer for this because we are individuals with different practice routines. The more you practice (through repetition) right hand grips, the more comfortable and natural it will feel. Everyone's different but after awhile your fingers will start to "feel" their way onto the correct strings. And fairly soon we can all be like Buddy Emmons or Joe Wright and not have to look at either hand. Wink I do believe though, if you're a beginner, it's OK to look at your right hand (briefly) to make sure your fingers are on the correct strings. Have fun and good luck!
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Gary Lee Gimble


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Post  Posted 20 Dec 2013 11:13 am    
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FWIW, during one of my lessons with Buddy Charleton, he'd covered my right picN hand with a magazine to wean me from staring at that hand....
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Dick Wood


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Post  Posted 20 Dec 2013 12:16 pm    
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I've been at it 35 years and rarely ever look at my right hand unless I'm playing a lick that I'm not used to.
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Rick Abbott

 

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Post  Posted 20 Dec 2013 1:07 pm    
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I have gone back and forth between a D10 and an S-12 universal. Once in the while I glance at my right hand to be sure I know where the 7th and 6th strings are. It's mostly a habit, I'm rarely off-position. I suppose most people look at the strings/frets so they can imagine where to find the notes they want. The levers, pedals and picks are extentions of that thought process...eventually Oh Well
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Tony Glassman


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Post  Posted 20 Dec 2013 1:12 pm    
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Jack Strayhorn

 

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Post  Posted 20 Dec 2013 1:19 pm    
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One thing I heard many years ago at a Buddy Charleton seminar was to look ahead to where you want to advance. It certainly helps with not missing the target.
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chris ivey


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Post  Posted 20 Dec 2013 2:31 pm    
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once you've played for awhile, i don't think most people consciously look at their hands or feet. it's all there in your peripheral vision, but your ears determine actual placement.
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David Spires


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Post  Posted 20 Dec 2013 2:54 pm    
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I am usually looking at my tuner... Ha!

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Roy McKinney

 

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Post  Posted 20 Dec 2013 3:44 pm    
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Jay Dee told me a long time ago not to look at my left hand as it was already where it was suppose to be....instead look at where it is going to next!
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Niels Andrews


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Post  Posted 20 Dec 2013 5:37 pm     What Reece said!
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When I asked Reece where I should be looking he said, "It doesn't matter where you been, your ear should tell you where you are at, so be looking at where you are going." And of course he meant the bar hand. He was always saying you need to be working at thinking ahead to where you are going to be, and how you are going to get there. Pretty much same thing JD said to Roy.
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Gary Cooper

 

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Post  Posted 21 Dec 2013 7:34 am     Are you looking at your right hand or left hand
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Thanks guys very much, some really helpful information. I think when Charlton covers a student's right hand that it is very important to learn the feel rather than the sight/location of the grip. Thank you all very much. Gary Cooper
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Bob Simons


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Post  Posted 22 Dec 2013 9:20 am    
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Bob Simons


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Post  Posted 22 Dec 2013 9:20 am    
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I'm afraid to even think about this question! As a former occasional golf "hustler" I can tell you the best way to mess up someone's golf swing is to get them thinking about what they are doing with their knee or elbow or some other part of what is supposed to be a coherent and flowing motion. I vote for watching where you are going next....
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Richard Sinkler


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Post  Posted 22 Dec 2013 11:05 am    
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Well, Friday night I spent a good amount of time looking at my right hand. The reason though, was because I am breaking in a new pick on my middle finger and am try to get it bent just right. For the last 3 or 4 gigs, that finger keeps missing a string here and there. I'm trying to see what is wrong.
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Niels Andrews


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Post  Posted 22 Dec 2013 1:27 pm    
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Just watched a Buddy Emmons video, he never looked at his guitar.
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Dale Rottacker


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Post  Posted 22 Dec 2013 1:28 pm    
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Mostly the left, but at times the right when I'm having trouble hitting certain strings in a lick or phrase!!
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Ray Montee


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Post  Posted 22 Dec 2013 2:25 pm     Right or Left, is the question.
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My constant gaze is on my left hand........ olde fashioned perhaps, but that is the way I learn't to do it. Practice makes still more frustration.

It's body mechanics and memory of touch, that keeps my right hand working properly so no need to stare at it.

Having learned on many different tunings, I found it necessary to watch the bar hand as it was necessary to be in different fret positions with each tuning change.
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Lane Gray


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Post  Posted 22 Dec 2013 3:16 pm    
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I glance occasionally at the right hand, or more accurately, at the 8th string. That provides my anchoring, I see the 8th and my thumb goes there.
Then I try to do like Reece suggested and look where I'm GOING, not where I AM with the bar hand.
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Richard Sinkler


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Post  Posted 22 Dec 2013 5:49 pm    
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John Hughey also told me he looks at the next fret he is going to end up at. I find I do the same. Of course, he did it much better than I do.
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Niels Andrews


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Post  Posted 22 Dec 2013 6:02 pm    
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Reece said when he felt he was playing well he was 2 to 3 moves ahead in his mind of where he was playing. I have enough to try to figure out where I am.
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chris ivey


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Post  Posted 22 Dec 2013 8:46 pm    
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reece was probably a good chess player.

lane..looking at the eighth string....that is the main thing that always scared me about 12 strings. i could never find the eighth string! everytime i sat down at one...i couldn't get comfy. i know it would just be a matter of time, but..
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Chris Lucker

 

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Post  Posted 22 Dec 2013 8:53 pm    
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If you still have a car that starts with a key, do you watch yourself putvttevkey in the ignition, or do you instinctively know where the tip of the key goes?
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chris ivey


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Post  Posted 22 Dec 2013 9:15 pm    
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was that pimped out cadillac yours, chris??

i could see you driving that.
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