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Topic: F# compensators |
Jerry Kippola
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UP Michigan, USA
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Posted 18 Nov 2013 7:24 am |
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| On my Zum I recently put E9 pulling compensators to flatten F# strings 1/7 - two off the P1 for the AB pedals down, and two off of P3 for that combination. It sure made a difference tuningwise as the combinations are unique. Anyone else tried this? So far I'm likin it. |
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Alex Cattaneo
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Quebec, Canada
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Posted 18 Nov 2013 9:46 am
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| I did the same recently and it makes all the difference in the world. Love it. |
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John Peay
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Cumming, Georgia USA
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Jerry Kippola
From:
UP Michigan, USA
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Posted 18 Nov 2013 1:51 pm
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| I read that past thread-but took it a step further (for me) by adding two more pulls off P3--- |
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John Peay
From:
Cumming, Georgia USA
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Posted 18 Nov 2013 3:33 pm
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| Jerry Kippola wrote: |
| I read that past thread-but took it a step further (for me) by adding two more pulls off P3--- |
Be careful, Jerry, or you'll soon take the throne from John "Compensator King" McClung ! |
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David Shepack
From:
New Jersey, USA
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Posted 19 Nov 2013 5:29 am Can compensators be used on a Maverick?
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I am having a hard time imagining what it looks like, and how they are adjusted , or calibrated. Could someone post a picture. The other thread didn't have a photo that helped.
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Josh Yenne
From:
Sonoma California
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Posted 21 Nov 2013 11:40 am
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| I definitely use a compensator on the 7th.. its off my B pedal if I remember correctly... almost NEVER have to tune it.. drops the note a few cents but all the difference for that 6th in the AB position. |
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Lane Gray
From:
Topeka, KS
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Posted 21 Nov 2013 12:22 pm
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You could use them on a Maverick, provided 7 has a body screw. A compensator is just another lower, but it doesn't go far.
Adding lowers to a Maverick is tricky, but can be done, even on a pedal that also raises.
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Dickie Whitley
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Posted 26 Nov 2013 6:51 pm
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If I'm reading this correctly, you're adding additional pulls to your A/B/C pedals to (ever so slightly) raise/lower other strings to make the chords sound sweeter?
So you may have two or even three additional pulls on each pedal?
Just want to make sure that's what we're saying here. |
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Jerry Kippola
From:
UP Michigan, USA
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Posted 26 Nov 2013 7:20 pm
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| Two pulls off P1 to lower strings 1+7, and two pulls off P3 to lower strings 1+7. I think this works better than pulls off P2. |
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Len Amaral
From:
Rehoboth,MA 02769
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Posted 26 Nov 2013 8:34 pm
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I play a U-12 with Jeff Newman's setup and use his tuning chart where the E's-B's and F#'s are at 442 on the TU-12 tuner. Seems to balance things with the triad
tones 7-6-5 or 7-5-4. Maybe my style of playing, bar pressure and slight vibrato
help with what I am hearing? |
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Len Amaral
From:
Rehoboth,MA 02769
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Posted 26 Nov 2013 8:35 pm
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I play a U-12 with Jeff Newman's setup and use his tuning chart where the E's-B's and F#'s are at 442 on the TU-12 tuner. Seems to balance things with the triad
tones 7-6-5 or 7-5-4. Maybe my style of playing, bar pressure and slight vibrato
help with what I am hearing? |
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John McClung
From:
Olympia WA, USA
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Posted 1 Dec 2013 2:22 pm
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Jerry, the reason I use and recommend flatting string 7 F# with pedal B, not A, is so I can sweeten a D Major chord (fret zero) using strings 9-7-6. Add string 5 for a D6. Push pedal A for an easy to play, full DMaj7. Strum through with string 8 for a Dmaj7add9. Great position once you understand how to use it and train your fingers to do the grip (easy, just grip 5-6-8 moved down a string).
On my Mullen, pedal A lowers both string 1 and 7 F#'s a bit so pedal A minor chords are sweet. Pedal C lowers just string 1, I think.
John "Compensator King" McClung
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Jerry Kippola
From:
UP Michigan, USA
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Posted 1 Dec 2013 5:44 pm
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| I use that Maj7 chord all the time. And regarding P3, S7 is pretty out. I separated the S1/7 pulls- two to P1 and two to P3 because the combinations are tuned so different. |
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Dickie Whitley
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Posted 1 Dec 2013 5:57 pm
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John or Jerry, would one of you consider listing or charting this thing out completely? Also is this just the A/B/C pedals or do you have some knees this way too?
Inquiring minds want to know.... |
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John McClung
From:
Olympia WA, USA
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Posted 1 Dec 2013 8:14 pm
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Dickie, there's a recent thread about all this:
http://bb.steelguitarforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=254594&highlight=
Here's my compensator summary:
My experience leads to this:
A pedal: raise strings 3 and 6 slightly so they're a straight up 5 note in a C#m.
Also: lower string 1 slightly to be in tune with string 5 raised (interval of a 4th)
B pedal: lower string 7 slightly so a D chord (zero fret, strings 9-7-6 with pedal B) is in tune
C pedal: lower string 1 slightly to match string 4 raised a whole. I seldom play string 7 in a chord with pedal C, but if I did, I'd lower string 7 with pedal C also.
F lever: raise strings 3 and 6 slightly so they're in tune in a C# chord with pedal A, lever F
YMMV
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