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Tony Boadle

 

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Skibbereen, County Cork, Ireland
Post  Posted 16 Nov 2013 11:49 am    
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I'm posting this thread from a locked and sealed workshop. I have vowed not to leave until I have completed my 6-shooter PSG home-build.( I might just nip out for the Christmas Day 'Downton Abbey' special on TV ).
I'll be tuning G# E B G# E B and fitting two pedals.
Pedal 1 raising the B's to C# and pedal 2 raising the G#'s to A. This is as per the Fessenden 6-shooter set-up.
If I was to consider fitting a third pedal whilst I'm under the cabinet, what should it do?
I'm utilising raises only at the moment, knee levers down the line if all goes well.
OK, back to work, all suggestions welcome.
Regards as always from County Cork
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Eric Dahlhoff


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Point Arena, California
Post  Posted 16 Nov 2013 1:04 pm     3rd pedal
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2 suggestions...
Pedal 3: raise B's & E's to C# & F#
P2 + P3 = F#m chord)
or
Pedal 0: raise E's to F
(P0 + P1 = C# chord)
(P0 = C#7 chord)
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Tony Boadle

 

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Skibbereen, County Cork, Ireland
Post  Posted 16 Nov 2013 1:21 pm     tuning
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Thanks Eric, appreciate the info.
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Josh Yenne


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Sonoma California
Post  Posted 21 Nov 2013 11:44 am    
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building your own? cool... post some pics when done.
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Jeff Mead


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London, England
Post  Posted 22 Nov 2013 8:37 am    
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If your changer is the same design as the original 6 shooter, I don't think it is sophisticated enough to allow two different pedals to both raise the same string.

That leaves you with the only option of raising the Es (to F or F#).

BTW I have mine set up as a primitive E9 (with just 2 pedals). E B G# F# D B

One pedal raises high B->C# and the D->E. G#->A and the low B->C#.

The big advantage to me is that as well as being able to play the most basic E9 licks, with both pedals down I get the A6 tuning I use on my 6 string lap steel (the tuning with which I am probably most familiar).
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Bob Carlucci

 

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Candor, New York, USA
Post  Posted 22 Nov 2013 9:06 am    
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will the six shooter changer lower a string??.. I am not familiar with the design.. If so, there are many good possibilites... bob
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Jack Hanson


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San Luis Valley, USA
Post  Posted 22 Nov 2013 9:16 am    
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If the changer will only do raises and you are not going to install any knee levers, consider moving your A & B pedals to the B & C position, then raising both E strings to F with the A pedal. That would give you a 7th chord with the A pedal, and another major chord with A & B.

If the changer will also allow lowers, consider lowering the E strings with the C pedal.
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Tony Boadle

 

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Skibbereen, County Cork, Ireland
Post  Posted 24 Nov 2013 3:53 pm     6-shooter
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Apologies for the slight delay in replying, I just checked in and was surprised to see more responses! I had no idea there could be so many tuning options.
I'm not sure of the design of the original 6-shooter changer, mine is basically six 'exclamation mark' shape fingers, each with two holes,one just above the other (at the opposite end of the shaft hole) The first hole on each of four of the fingers will facilitate the required two pairs of raises. The second hole will hopefully open up some options for using a third pedal, if I have to raise another pair which includes a string already 'spoken for'. I'll be using bike-type brake cables, and each finger will have adjustable raise stops. If I have to settle for two pedals, that's ok, but I'm trying to build-in the option of three. I hope this all makes sense, it does to me, but then again I'm primarily a banjo-picker....and it's time for my tablets.
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Tony Boadle

 

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Skibbereen, County Cork, Ireland
Post  Posted 24 Nov 2013 4:06 pm     6-shooter
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BTW....bearing in mind the original tuning plan:
(I'll be tuning G# E B G# E B and fitting two pedals.
Pedal 1 raising the B's to C# and pedal 2 raising the G#'s to A).....if my 'changer and cable' design won't cope with two pedals raising the same string, which would be better...the two E's to F ? Or F# ?
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