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Topic: 5-th/6-th string lower |
Gary Preston
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Columbus, Ohio, USA
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Posted 25 Jul 2003 4:26 pm |
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| How many of you have the 5-th and 6-th string lowering a half step at the same time ? and how are you using it ?? thanks G.P. |
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Donny Hinson
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Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
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Posted 25 Jul 2003 7:25 pm
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It's much more versatile if you use two different pedals to get that change.  |
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Jim Smith
From:
Midlothian, TX, USA
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Posted 25 Jul 2003 11:48 pm
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| Unless you're playing the chromatic strings, instead of lowering both strings, you can just raise the E's and drop back one fret. |
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Gary Preston
From:
Columbus, Ohio, USA
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Posted 26 Jul 2003 8:25 am
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| Thanks guys for the reply ,this is a new change for me and it is on one lever and i was wondering if someone else had it this way and how they are using it ? i was told that it is a John Hughey change ( where are you John ? ) thanks G.P. [This message was edited by Gary Preston on 26 July 2003 at 09:26 AM.] |
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Ricky Davis
From:
Bertram, Texas USA
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Posted 26 Jul 2003 12:30 pm
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I've never seen or heard of anyone lowering the 5th and 6th on the same lever just a half Tone....???? Are you sure it's a half tone on both??? I just don't see the use in this at all.....unless they were split between two different knees.
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C Dixon
From:
Duluth, GA USA
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Posted 26 Jul 2003 1:32 pm
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Gotta go along with Ricky on this one. I have never seen lowering 5 and 6 a half a tone. Could you be speaking of the Paul Franklin pedal, where he lowers 5 and 6 a whole tone; also lowers 10 a whole tone with it. And now Tommy White has split this for further embelishment of this haunting sound.
If you are talking about 5 and 6 down a half a tone, it of course creates part of a dim chord. The same thing can be achieved (as has been stated) by raising the E's and moving down one fret.
Could you tell us where you have seen or heard about this change?
Thanks,
carl |
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Rainer Hackstaette
From:
Bohmte, Germany
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Posted 26 Jul 2003 3:55 pm
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When I bought my first professional PSG in 1979, a used '70 Emmons S-10 with 6 pedals and 4 knees, the guitar came with that halftone lower for strings 5+6 on pedal 5. I have no idea who put the change on the guitar, much less why. I never found much use for it and soon split the change, leaving the G# to G on the pedal and putting the B to Bb (along with the same halftone lower for string 10) on an extra vertical knee. I used the B-Bb change a LOT more than the pedal with the G#-G.
That particular guitar also had an extra "unsplit" A/B pedal change on P4: raising 5 to C# and 6 to A. Going from P4 to no pedals to P5 and back created some pseudo-hawaiian sound - maybe that was the reasoning behind that setup.
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[This message was edited by Rainer Hackstaette on 26 July 2003 at 05:01 PM.] |
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KENNY KRUPNICK
From:
Columbus, Ohio
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Posted 26 Jul 2003 7:51 pm
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| I think Gary means dropping both 5th,and 6th a whole tone.{Franklin change}. |
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Gary Preston
From:
Columbus, Ohio, USA
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Posted 27 Jul 2003 5:05 pm
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| Hi, kenny i also have that change to but it has the change that drops the 5/6 a half tone and i was told that John Hughey has that change also. thanks G.P. |
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KENNY KRUPNICK
From:
Columbus, Ohio
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Posted 27 Jul 2003 7:54 pm
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| Gary, Is there half stops on those changes? |
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Gary Preston
From:
Columbus, Ohio, USA
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Posted 28 Jul 2003 6:06 pm
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Hi, kenny
no half stops here. but thanks G.P. |
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Gary Preston
From:
Columbus, Ohio, USA
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Posted 7 Aug 2003 12:09 pm
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| Bump !! |
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Doug Seymour
From:
Jamestown NY USA (deceased)
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Posted 7 Aug 2003 12:47 pm
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| No one has mentioned what tuning you were talking about, but it sounds like all have presumed E9th? Actually 1/2 tone lower on 5 & 6 is a standard on the C6th, P5 & 6. [This message was edited by Doug Seymour on 07 August 2003 at 01:49 PM.] |
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Gary Preston
From:
Columbus, Ohio, USA
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Posted 9 Aug 2003 5:22 pm
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Hi, doug and thanks for the reply .
this is a ''E''ninth tuning and i was told that John Hughey has this change also. i wish someone would ask him and see. anyone know John ?? thanks G.P. |
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