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Topic: Finally my s12 pp is complete. |
Jeff Metz Jr.
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York, Pennsylvania, USA
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Posted 3 Nov 2013 8:33 pm |
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Well my guitar was recently gone over and set up by Clem Faust of pa. Also he added a LKR giving me 4 pedals and 5 knees.
I had him put some unique changes on my guitar that I am new to . I would like some ideas on how you would incorporate these changes.
1. LKR lowers both Eb and D to C#.
2.LKV lowers Eb to D and F# to F
3.LKL raises Es to F#
4.RKR raises both F#'s to G.
How uncommon are those changes and what are some good uses? Btw my Es are split as you can see.
Thanks
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richard burton
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Britain
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Posted 3 Nov 2013 9:48 pm
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If it's E9 tuning, you need LKL to raise your E's to F, not F#.
Is the E lower (to Eb) on RKL?
If it's a different tuning, disregard my comments |
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Jeff Metz Jr.
From:
York, Pennsylvania, USA
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Posted 3 Nov 2013 10:03 pm
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Richard your correct. I made a typo.
My LKL raises Es to F.
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Lane Gray
From:
Topeka, KS
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Posted 4 Nov 2013 3:42 am
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Your V seems odd. I've not seen it before.
A few ideas for your D# lower (LKR) are here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdfmMfzvcI4
Also the "Emmons Cross", in the third bar of the intro here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFj680v3xM8
EDIT: I bet that Greg Cutshaw has some stuff on his page on how to use most of those (other than your vertical).
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Howard Parker
From:
Maryland
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Posted 4 Nov 2013 7:28 am
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I personally think that putting "unique" changes on a guitar without a clear understanding/purpose is asking for trouble.
At least I'd be asking for trouble.
ymmv.
hp
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Lane Gray
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Topeka, KS
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Posted 4 Nov 2013 7:48 am
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One other thought: I don't see a problem with a separate lever for the D, many folks don't like half stops. But at least 60% of the time I use a 2nd string D, I have an F# in there, your change takes that away.
Not that I recommend people change their copedents to make my personal musical vocabulary possible, but I do think most of us use this combo, it's both the IV of IV (D Major at the nut), but both 7 and 9 of the I chord.
If I owned a guitar with that combo of changes on a lever, I'd put short money on disconnecting that first string rod within a month (but I'd give it awhile to try to work first).
OTOH, you might find cool uses for that combo.
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Jack Stoner
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Kansas City, MO
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Posted 4 Nov 2013 7:49 am
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+1 for what Howard said.
Its fine to experiment and try different changes and if they were not tried we wouldn't have some of the changes we have now. But for a beginner or someone that does not have a lot of experience, the more common setups are best. |
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Earnest Bovine
From:
Los Angeles CA USA
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Posted 4 Nov 2013 8:14 am
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| Lane Gray wrote: |
| Your V seems odd. I've not seen it before. |
That's not so unusual. I've seen it before, right here! That V lever lowers D# to D, and F# to F. I have that on my Emmons PP (and all-pull guitars as well).
It's the half-stop on my RKL.
Jeff doesn't say whether the F# is string 1, or string 7. I assume string 7, where that is a very useful change.
The half step lower on strings 1 and 7 happens when I push the lever half way. When I push it all the way, those 2 strings go down an additional half step to C# and E, and 2 other strings get pulled : 9 lowers from D to C#, and 12 raises from E to F#.
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RKL half -- full
F#
D# D -- C#
G#
E
B
G#
F# F -- E
E
D (D) -- C#
B
G#
E (E) -- F#
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Here's an easy way to set it up so that all 6 of those pitches can be tuned while you play without having to get under the guitar.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tlXL6eYaAQ |
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