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Topic: LKV with pedals 1, 2 or 3? |
Larry Harlan
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Hydro, Oklahoma
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Posted 3 Nov 2013 3:37 pm |
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| Probably showing my lack of knowledge...but I don't have a LKV on my steel. Question I have is: What pedals or combination of pedals of 1, 2 or 3 with the LKV is most commonly used? I trying to figure out how much I'm missing out on by not having a LKV on my ole steel. Thanks in advance for your thoughts and time. |
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Richard Sinkler
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Posted 3 Nov 2013 3:53 pm
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It would depend on what changes you put on it.
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Jeff Scott Brown
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O'Fallon Missouri, USA
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Posted 3 Nov 2013 3:58 pm
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I am not 100% sure but I think a common thing to do with LKV is to drop 5 and 10 a half step. Does anyone else do that?
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Carl Kilmer
From:
East Central, Illinois
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Posted 3 Nov 2013 4:07 pm
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I use it with the A & B pedals to get a minor chord.
Like on the 3rd fret to go from C to Cm. If you don't
have it you can move up one fret and lower the E's.
It's also very useful on a song like "Together Again"
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Larry Harlan
From:
Hydro, Oklahoma
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Posted 3 Nov 2013 4:11 pm Larry Harlan
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| Well, I guess I should have been more explicit. All I've ever observed is on E9th strings 5 & 10 being lowered a 1/2 from B to Bb. Now, having said that, what combination of pedals 1, or 2 or 3, (1 & 2) or (2 & 3) are used with the LKV..OR is it mostly used by itself? OR is pedal 1 or 2 or 3 used with the LKV? |
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Carl Kilmer
From:
East Central, Illinois
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Posted 3 Nov 2013 4:19 pm
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Pedals A and B are the same as 1 and 2
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Lane Gray
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Topeka, KS
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Posted 3 Nov 2013 5:45 pm
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When I ordered my Zum, the LKV raised 1 to G and lowered 6 to F#. RKL lowered 5 and 10 to A#.
I later reversed them.
Here's a brief discussion of it in a major chord setting;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9aEyTaD3YA
Here's a brief discussion of it in a minor chord setting (dropping the tonic in the A pedal minor; C#m open):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sn1IY1E-uKU
Hope that helps.
Personally, if I HAD to go back to 4 levers, I'd keep this and lose the F lever
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Lane Gray
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Topeka, KS
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Posted 3 Nov 2013 5:55 pm
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I've also seen some folks lower 3 and 6 with LKV. I think it's better to describe levers by what they do (I call this the A# lever) rather than either letters or positions, because neither is even close to standard
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Richard Sinkler
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aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana
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Posted 3 Nov 2013 9:34 pm
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My vertical raises 1 & 7 to G. A lot of players put B to Bb there. I didn't use that one much and put my F# to G changes back on. I lower the 5th string to Bb (with a split tuner) on the pedal next to my A pedal so I can play both at the same time to get the C note. I play a Day setup, so the pedal is actually my 5th pedal as my A pedal is actually pedal 4 on my guitar.
There are surely others that use the vertical for other changes too. No real standard there.
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Larry Bressington
From:
Nebraska
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Posted 9 Nov 2013 5:30 pm
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3&6 lowered a half is very nice especially in lower frets ( me likes)...it's not mandatory though and I no longer have it.... I can get B"s (b5) lowered by moving back a fret and pressing A pedal and F lever. .. b5 has a lovely dissonance sound, a vertical would be smoother maybe!
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Ron Pruter
From:
Arizona, USA
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Posted 9 Nov 2013 7:45 pm
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Larry H,
I strongly feel you are correct, that lowering 5 and 10 with 1/2 LKV is the norm. Now to shed more light on your question. On Emmons set-up, no bar:
A+B+LKV=Amin----B+C+LKV=F#minb5 or Amin6th-----A+LKV=Eaug or C#min/Maj7th. Anyway, that's my main uses. But there's others and I love the V lever. RP
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