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Alex Cattaneo


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Quebec, Canada
Post  Posted 23 Oct 2013 1:11 pm    
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I want to install a tunable split for string 6 on one of my guitars; I got my extra rod and all, but I want to make sure I putting it in the right place.

The changer is triple raise, double lower;
The B pedal is attached in the middle hole at the changer;

The rod pullers (aka bell cranks) have 7 holes;
The 6th string lower on RKL is attached on the 6th hole, one before last (hole #1 being the closest to the soundboard).

So I'd like to know where to attach the rod, and also, do I need to change anything with the RKL the way it's setup now?

If this isn't clear I'll add pictures. Thanks!
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Keith Currie

 

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Shellbrook, Saskatchewan, Canada
Post  Posted 23 Oct 2013 1:47 pm    
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.Alex the split rod needs to go to the raise finger, but you dont need to pull it much, I would go with the least travel you can.
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Keith Currie

 

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Shellbrook, Saskatchewan, Canada
Post  Posted 23 Oct 2013 1:49 pm    
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Guess I should have said it goes from the lower bell crank to the raise finger.
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Richard Sinkler


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aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana
Post  Posted 23 Oct 2013 1:59 pm    
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I have the splits on my guitar in the top hole (closest to guitar body) of both the bellcrank and raise finger. And, yes, it goes on the lever that lowers the string.
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Alex Cattaneo


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Quebec, Canada
Post  Posted 23 Oct 2013 4:57 pm    
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Thanks guys! I'll install it tomorrow and keep you posted.
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Mark van Allen


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Watkinsville, Ga. USA
Post  Posted 23 Oct 2013 8:40 pm    
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Hey, Alex, there's a great clear diagram near the bottom of this page on my site:
http://www.markvanallen.com/tips.html
Works great!
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Alex Cattaneo


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Quebec, Canada
Post  Posted 24 Oct 2013 6:14 am    
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Thanks Mark, very useful. Should I move the B pedal pull rod from the middle to the 3rd hole in the raise finger?
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Allan Kelly


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Watford, United Kingdom
Post  Posted 24 Oct 2013 7:39 am    
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Have you seen diagrams in this post
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Mark van Allen


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Watkinsville, Ga. USA
Post  Posted 24 Oct 2013 8:21 am    
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If the B pull is working well, Alex, I would leave it where it is.
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Richard Sinkler


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Post  Posted 24 Oct 2013 8:59 am    
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Alex Cattaneo wrote:
Thanks Mark, very useful. Should I move the B pedal pull rod from the middle to the 3rd hole in the raise finger?


That's where they are on my Carter (setup from the factory), but I agree 100% with Mark. If it's working, leave it alone.
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Alex Cattaneo


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Post  Posted 24 Oct 2013 4:48 pm    
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Success!!! Thanks to everyone who chimed in (pun intended). I really missed having that change. You got your minor chord in the open position with the B pedal and the lever, and the 7th chord with a+b+lever, it's so useful, plus all the chromatic moves you can do with F#, G, G# and A and in the same spot.

The hex nylon tuner is sticking out a bit, but these tuners I got were an extra 1/8" longer, so all and all it's sticking out 3/16", I suppose that's not a big deal.

Next week I'm going to install compensators on both F# Strings...


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Richard Sinkler


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Post  Posted 24 Oct 2013 4:53 pm    
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Success!!! Thanks to everyone who chimed in (pun intended). I really missed having that change. You got your minor chord in the open position with the B pedal and the lever, and the 7th chord with a+b+lever, it's so useful, plus all the chromatic moves you can do with F#, G, G# and A and in the same spot.


The chromatic moves you mention are one of things I love about the 6th string lower. A lot of melody stuff you can do between the pedals down position and the 2 frets down 6th lower and E to D# lowers.

I have to admit that I never use the split to get the minor in the no pedals position. But the split that gives the 7th, I use a lot.
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Dan Beller-McKenna


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Durham, New Hampshire, USA
Post  Posted 25 Oct 2013 4:42 am    
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I love the change/split for all the reasons Richard mentioned, but also to get an open G-natural: very handy for combining open and stopped strings down low.

Dan
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