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Topic: Pre and Post EQ patches on PV amps question |
George Kimery
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Limestone, TN, USA
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Posted 24 Sep 2013 7:37 pm |
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I am going Guitar > Lil Izzy > Black Box > Input of amp because I want to go from black box to amp without anything in between. I am using the pre EQ patch for my volume pedal, so I am running the "3 cord hookup" I have my RV-3 looped into the post EQ patch.
I have been wondering if it makes any difference whether the volume pedal or RV-3 are run Pre EQ or Post EQ. I just tried them both ways and I really could not tell any difference.
Is there a correct vs. incorrect way to do what I am doing?
Thanks.
George |
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Lane Gray
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Topeka, KS
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Posted 24 Sep 2013 9:30 pm
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As noted in a similar thread the other day, the two patches run at different levels. I'd check the specs on both the amp and the reverb, selecting the loop with the best match.
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2 pedal steels, a lapStrat, and an 8-string Dobro (and 3 ukes)
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David Nugent
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Gum Spring, Va.
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Posted 25 Sep 2013 3:22 am
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| According to Peavey manuals; running pre-gain for VP, post-gain for effects is the recommended method. |
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Lane Gray
From:
Topeka, KS
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Posted 25 Sep 2013 4:13 am
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David, I think that varies with effects type.
According to Ken Fox in http://bb.steelguitarforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=252904 (the post i was thinking of), the rack mount boxen expect line level. But stomp boxen generally expect instrument level, a much lower voltage.
While some do well with the hotter signal, I've had some gadgets that clipped badly in the loop. I had a CE3 that had an uncontrollable fuzz chorus
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2 pedal steels, a lapStrat, and an 8-string Dobro (and 3 ukes)
More amps than guitars, and not many effects |
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George Kimery
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Limestone, TN, USA
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Posted 25 Sep 2013 6:41 am Pre and Post EQ on PV amps question
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Running my 120 pedal and RV-3, the Peavey recommended way, is the way I am going to stay. Perhaps a Hilton or Telonics pedals have more output and that could change things or if I was running rack mounted delay and/or reverb. If it ain't broken, don't fix it. I just wanted to make sure the way I am doing it is OK, and Peavey says it is, so that's good enough for me.
As always, thanks for the help.
George |
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Lane Gray
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Topeka, KS
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Posted 25 Sep 2013 3:02 pm
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George, since the RV-3 is a stomp, after reading Ken's post, I think I'd put it on the pre loop as that's not line level. I don't think you'd hurt anything your way, but I suspect the reverb will work a bit better at the lower levels of the pre loop. Not to mention fewer long cables. Two round trips from the amp seems odd.
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2 pedal steels, a lapStrat, and an 8-string Dobro (and 3 ukes)
More amps than guitars, and not many effects |
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Clete Ritta
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San Antonio, Texas
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Posted 26 Sep 2013 5:04 am
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| I dont use the pre loop. I plug the steel right into a Hilton VP to the input of a NV 1000. I run a bunch of foot pedals (including MXR Dist+, MXR Carbon Copy, Boss RV-3, Boss TU-2) in and out of the post loop with no problems. Maybe just lucky, but I do keep the pre gain pretty low (around 2.5~3) and turn the master up (4~5 is usually plenty). I send the line out XLR on back to the PA. |
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Ken Fox
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Nashville GA USA
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Posted 26 Sep 2013 5:15 am
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The Post EQ loop on the N112 is fine for pedals. It is the Pre amp out/Power amp in loop thqat is too hot.
On N-400 amps you do not have the option of a Post EQ loop. |
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Lane Gray
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Topeka, KS
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Posted 26 Sep 2013 5:55 am
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Oops. I read here and I learn stuff every day. But it seems I learn the wrong things sometimes.
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2 pedal steels, a lapStrat, and an 8-string Dobro (and 3 ukes)
More amps than guitars, and not many effects |
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