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Topic: Yet another "Teach your Children" thread |
Mike Daly
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Posted 19 Sep 2013 10:11 am |
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| Well maybe Neil Young's recollection of Jerry Garcia's infamous steel track on "Teach your Children" might be skewed, but I think Graham Nash's recollection of the same session might help bring clarity to the conversation. His new autobiography, "Wild Tales", talks of the session on page 175 in detail, including Stephen Stills changing the original feel to a more country approach and Jerry playing pedal steel guitar. Jerry's first take is what made it on the album and Graham calls his track " one of the defining elements in that recording". Defining element indeed. |
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Joachim Kettner
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Posted 19 Sep 2013 12:47 pm
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The Hollies had steel on "Jennifer Eccles". 
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Chris Templeton
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Posted 19 Sep 2013 2:00 pm
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I corresponded with Stephen Quinn Barncard, who was the engineer on the "Teach" session, and asked him for any recollections about the session for the forum and he wrote:
"We used a comp of the 2 takes. Graham should remember that, as we revisited the 16 track for the box set. Neil's "recollection" was totally skewed. I doubt if Neil was even there, and for sure Bill Halverson, the recordist for the project was not there, even though he says he was. Old guys.
I remember Nash walking around the studio like a troubadour, playing it over and over again. And it was a PEDAL steel. We popped into Studio D for 15 minutes because C was already set up for tracking."
I was the fricking assistant and got to do it, my second big artist recordist experience, sink or swim. Neil was barely at most of the sessions, usually just for tracking and didn't hang out, Stills was there more than anyone except me. I would have to be there 1 hr before to set up and 1 hr after the session to tear down. Sometimes Stills would be up all night fueled by blow and we'd be there until 6 or 7 am. No lockouts and Creedence in the daytime 10-6. I might see Wally in the morning and he saw me and said "Double time after 13 hours..."
Stephen also writes "it was done in 5 minutes. SM56 ---> UREI/Demedio preamp ---> UA 1176 in Studio D".
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Chris Templeton
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Posted 19 Sep 2013 3:16 pm
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Stephen Barncard emailed me this picture of Jerry playing his ZB on a New Riders session.
He asks not to share this photo outside of the forum.
(Yes, ZB, Not BMI)
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Bill L. Wilson
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Posted 19 Sep 2013 9:10 pm Not a BMI.
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| Looks to me like a ZB. |
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Russ Wever
From:
Kansas City
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Posted 19 Sep 2013 9:29 pm Re: Yet another
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| Mike Daly wrote: |
. . . His new autobiography, "Wild Tales",
talks of the session on page 175 in detail, . . . |
Previewable ~> here
~Rw
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Chris Templeton
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Kevin Hatton
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Buffalo, N.Y.
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Posted 20 Sep 2013 4:37 am
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| No, Jerry used a ZB. There's photos of that session also. You can also hear the distinctive ZB tone of it on the recording. |
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Chris LeDrew
From:
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Posted 20 Sep 2013 5:53 am
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| Chris Templeton wrote: |
I corresponded with Stephen Quinn Barncard, who was the engineer on the "Teach" session, and asked him for any recollections about the session for the forum and he wrote:
"We used a comp of the 2 takes. Graham should remember that, as we revisited the 16 track for the box set. Neil's "recollection" was totally skewed. I doubt if Neil was even there, and for sure Bill Halverson, the recordist for the project was not there, even though he says he was. Old guys.
I remember Nash walking around the studio like a troubadour, playing it over and over again. And it was a PEDAL steel. We popped into Studio D for 15 minutes because C was already set up for tracking."
I was the fricking assistant and got to do it, my second big artist recordist experience, sink or swim. Neil was barely at most of the sessions, usually just for tracking and didn't hang out, Stills was there more than anyone except me. I would have to be there 1 hr before to set up and 1 hr after the session to tear down. Sometimes Stills would be up all night fueled by blow and we'd be there until 6 or 7 am. No lockouts and Creedence in the daytime 10-6. I might see Wally in the morning and he saw me and said "Double time after 13 hours..."
Stephen also writes "it was done in 5 minutes. SM56 ---> UREI/Demedio preamp ---> UA 1176 in Studio D". |
Excellent info. Thanks so much for sharing.
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