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Bill McCloskey

 

Post  Posted 11 Aug 2013 10:11 am    
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Hey folks,

I don't get around here much any more but wanted to pop in to relate a strange experience I had yesterday and thought it might be in an interesting topic of conversation.

I was laying in the jacuzzi up to my ears and I had the jacuzzi running. As I was lying there I could hear what I thought was symphonic music playing down stairs. I could barely make it out, but I could the instruments playing and I figured my girlfriend had music playing downstairs.

When I turned the jacuzzi off, the music stopped.

Somehow the sound of the jacuzzi itself created a musical vibration in my head and my mind just filled in the pieces, inventing the music I thought I was hearing.

Any similar experience? Thinking you were hearing music that turned out to be only in your head?
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Dave Hopping


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Post  Posted 11 Aug 2013 11:58 am    
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The aural equivalent of Michaelangelo seeing the statue of David in the block of marble... Cool
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Rick Barnhart


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Post  Posted 11 Aug 2013 12:29 pm    
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For me its just the voices Smile
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Jim Cohen


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Post  Posted 11 Aug 2013 12:37 pm    
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Well, you should start transcribing it. It might be good! You know, "Water Music", etc...
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Ben Elder

 

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Post  Posted 11 Aug 2013 1:26 pm    
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Years ago (and by years I mean in the image-orthicon black-and-white TV era with halo effects around dark objects on the screen) on a panel show--probably "I've Got a Secret"--an inventor displayed a device with a pad that, when applied to the spine, caused the apply-ee to hear music being transmitted from whatever gizmo it was wired to. The celebrity panelists (the image of Bess Myerson in a black dress sticks with me), after probably failing to guess his secret, verified that it worked the way he claimed that it did.

Obviously Steve Jobs never appropriated or licensed this technology, but perhaps there's some connection between the two phenomena.
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Blake Hawkins


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Post  Posted 11 Aug 2013 4:22 pm    
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Ben, I'll bet you also remember "dynode spots." Smile

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Steve Hitsman


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Waterloo, IL
Post  Posted 12 Aug 2013 3:02 am    
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Stand in a trout stream and listen to the water gurgling for about 8 hours and eventually you'll hear someone who isn't there speaking to you from the bank.
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Darrell Birtcher

 

Post  Posted 12 Aug 2013 6:44 am    
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The combination of white noise and motor rumble from my old air conditioner used to make people swear they could hear the phone ringing. The new unit is smoother sounding and doesn't cause that effect anymore.
I think there's a name for this phenomenon, where the brain adds info to external inputs to create extra sounds. They say the best of the old composers knew how to harness it and used it to good effect.
Bill McCloskey

 

Post  Posted 12 Aug 2013 6:55 am    
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That is funny you say that Darrell. When I was a kid in high school, I have vivid memories of me just laying on my bed and listening to whole symphonies in my head. I just laid there and listened to it. I haven't had the ability since I was a teenager. Might be related.
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Bill McCloskey

 

Post  Posted 12 Aug 2013 6:58 am    
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Just found this related article: http://carlzimmer.com/articles/2004.php?subaction=showfull&id=1177189852&archive=&start_from=&ucat=7&
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Darrell Birtcher

 

Post  Posted 12 Aug 2013 7:42 am    
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Very interesting article Bill. Here's the line that sums it up for the phenomenon that I was referring to:

"The music-processing regions of the brain are continually looking for patterns in the signals arriving from the ears."

Supposedly, some composers knew how to tap into this.

My mother started having auditory hallucinations in the early stages of her dementia. By the end it appeared to be constant, both auditory and visual. Sad.
Mark van Allen


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Post  Posted 12 Aug 2013 7:47 am    
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I generally take interest in the wildlife wherever I am. This week I had road gigs in central Iowa, and there was a bird there with a call that sounded exactly like someone saying "Psstt!" right behind your ear. Drove me nuts trying to figure out who wanted to tell me a secret. or sell me a watch.
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chris ivey


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Post  Posted 12 Aug 2013 8:50 am    
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bill, just so you don't think you're crazy, i've experienced similar 'hearing music' hallucinations.
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Bill McCloskey

 

Post  Posted 12 Aug 2013 9:02 am    
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I've been doing a bit of research and apparently music hallucinations tied to a white noise source is a common phenomenon. The brain is an amazing thing.
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Erich Meisberger

 

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Post  Posted 13 Aug 2013 6:36 am    
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Happens to me frequently.
When I was a teenager I would often hear the Grateful Dead playing in my mind. No particular song but always inspired, soaring jams. These days it's usually just white noise turned into jazz.

It is surprising that this experience is not universal among musicians.
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Joachim Kettner


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Post  Posted 13 Aug 2013 7:06 am    
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Sometimes I dream of songs with lyrics and melodies icluding the arrangements, maybe for fragments of a second, time is hard to calculate in a dream. Sometimes they're really good but they can also be annoying. I read once that Keith Richards had a tape recorder in reach of his bed to record them on the spot.
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Darrell Birtcher

 

Post  Posted 13 Aug 2013 7:35 am    
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I hear you on the dreams Joachim. Best song I ever wrote came to me in a fever induced dream, arrangement and all just like you say. I thought it was a Haggard tune. Could even hear Bonnie singing backup. When I realized it was original I made a mental note and wrote down what I could remember once I woke up. Played it on the bandstand that night and it was a hit with the crowd! It became one of our most requested songs
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Post  Posted 13 Aug 2013 8:11 am    
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What a lucky incident, Darrel, and very interesting also.
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Peter Freiberger

 

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Post  Posted 13 Aug 2013 8:54 am    
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Similar phenomena are explored in this book:

http://musicophilia.com/
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David Mason


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Post  Posted 14 Aug 2013 10:12 am    
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I used to have an archaic window-unit air conditioner that was a very creative musical pal. Fairly obviously, your companion has to be putting out white noise in the right frequency range for you to fill in the blanks. Tiredness towards exhaustion seemed to be a big factor for me, like there are certain filters designed to keep me in the "real" world that get weakened?

I find all this stuff fascinating - music can be a tool in the analysis of brain functions. One solid fact that comes out of brain research is that repetition causes the brain to allot more memory to what you've worked on the most, whether it's music - or tennis serves, or archery, or catching M&M's with your tongue. They've run MRI's and CAT scans of professional violinists comparing their brain in silence, and then playing recordings of the violinist's favored concertos. Compared to the normies, their brain fires up like ten times the number of brain cells as the non-musician listening to the same piece. So it's far easier for musicians to engage the grooves worn in their brain; I would strongly suspect country musicians hear country, classical players hear classical etc.

It's kind of fun to bring up the notion of "hearing songs in your head" with very strait-laced folks - yes, m'am, you're tripping your brains out... Devil
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