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Ken Metcalf


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Post  Posted 6 Aug 2013 4:31 am    
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Not sure which category this falls into...

There is a theory that the change from 432 Hz to 440 Hz was dictated by Nazi propaganda minister, Joseph Goebbels. He used it to make people think and feel a certain manner, and to make them a prisoner of a certain consciousness. Then around 1940 the United States introduced 440 Hz worldwide, and finally in 1953 it became the ISO 16-standard.

http://www.whydontyoutrythis.com/2013/08/440hz-music-conspiracy-to-detune-good-vibrations-from-natural-432hz.html
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Bob Russell


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Post  Posted 6 Aug 2013 5:08 am    
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440 was in use as a standard before anyone had ever heard of a Nazi.

http://www.piano-tuners.org/history/pitch.html
http://drjazz.ca/musicians/pitchhistory.html

And no, men in black helicopters didn't make me post this. Smile
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Ron Kassof

 

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Post  Posted 6 Aug 2013 7:01 am    
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Bob, that's EXACTLY what they want you to think! Winking
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chris ivey


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Post  Posted 6 Aug 2013 7:42 am    
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the kings chamber in the great pyramid resonates at 740hz=F sharp
the coffer resonates at 440hz=A
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Ron Kassof

 

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Post  Posted 6 Aug 2013 8:28 am    
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Actually, the first pedal steels were brought into the US by German agents in U-boats just of the coast of NY, Florida, and possibly Cape Hatteras, as a means to sabotage American morale. This is the original use of the term "cabinet drop".

As a side note, later in the war, in a last-ditch effort to forestall invasion, the Japanese sent balloons laden with banjos across the Pacific to drop on the West Coast. Fortunately, few ever reached populated areas.
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Pete Burak

 

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Post  Posted 6 Aug 2013 8:39 am    
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More of the inside story...
http://bb.steelguitarforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=243849&highlight=hitler
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Jim Cohen


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Post  Posted 6 Aug 2013 8:43 am    
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Ron Kassof wrote:
Actually, the first pedal steels were brought into the US by German agents in U-boats just of the coast of NY, Florida, and possibly Cape Hatteras, as a means to sabotage American morale. This is the original use of the term "cabinet drop".

As a side note, later in the war, in a last-ditch effort to forestall invasion, the Japanese sent balloons laden with banjos across the Pacific to drop on the West Coast. Fortunately, few ever reached populated areas.


Y'know, Ron, I just checked that on Snopes and they say it's true.
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Dave Hopping


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Post  Posted 6 Aug 2013 9:17 am    
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I KNEW it!!!!

Secret ancient alien Nazi mind control protocols.Next gig,I'm wearing my tinfoil Resistol. Winking
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Walter Bowden


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Post  Posted 6 Aug 2013 10:28 am    
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I remember hearing a story that German sound techs used to "tweak" certain frequencies on the PA systems used in big Nazi rallies in an attempt to excite people and increase their emotional responses.
Sound system frequencies are also measured in Hz.
I asked a respected history professor who specialized in studying German politics of the 19th and 20th century if he had ever heard of this and he told me he hadn't and that Hitler didn't need tweaking the sound to excite Germans back then. Sorry if this is going off topic but love to read this kind of stuff. Best wishes, Walter
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mike nolan


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Post  Posted 6 Aug 2013 10:36 am    
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OK, so suppose that I tune to 432, while the rest of the band tunes 440. Will there be world peace?
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Dan Beller-McKenna


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Post  Posted 6 Aug 2013 10:48 am    
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There is also a conspiracy theory that the atonal music of Anton Webern (1883-1945), which sounds fairly random to the untrained ear (and even to some pretty well trained ears) despite being obsessively organized, was actually coded information being delivered for the Nazis. No: I didn't make that up.

Don't know Webern's music? here's a sample:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKD_tZr-ZpY

This is not music I listen to for pleasure, but it carries a certain conceptual weight and a beauty of its own. It lacks twang, though.

Dan
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mike nolan


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Post  Posted 6 Aug 2013 11:22 am    
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Dan,

Some of the really short Webern pieces are pretty great... like Opus 11 #2. It clocks in at about 27 seconds and is a cool, complete, musical thought.
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Dan Beller-McKenna


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Post  Posted 6 Aug 2013 11:33 am    
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Mike,

When I was an undergrad, pre CDs(oy weh!), all of Webern's music fit on 3 LPs. Yup: some pretty short pieces there! I like some of it; not all of it.

Dan
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chris ivey


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Post  Posted 6 Aug 2013 1:38 pm    
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mike nolan wrote:
OK, so suppose that I tune to 432, while the rest of the band tunes 440. Will there be world peace?


maybe...but at least everyone at the moose lodge will be in their comfort zone and maybe buy me another drink!
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Jim Cohen


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Post  Posted 6 Aug 2013 1:45 pm    
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mike nolan wrote:
OK, so suppose that I tune to 432, while the rest of the band tunes 440. Will there be world peace?


Keep an eye out for whirled peas...
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b0b


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Post  Posted 6 Aug 2013 2:20 pm     unified theory of nothing
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3 octaves below 440 Hz lies the bass A1 note at 55 Hz.

Some of the world's electrical systems use 60 Hz AC current, some use 50 Hz. A1 at 55 Hz is right in the middle. They say music is the universal language. Coincidence?

The difference between the 60 Hz and 50 Hz systems sets up a 10 Hz electromagnetic wave on a global scale. Notice that Saudi Arabia uses 60 Hz while all of its neighbors use 50 Hz. Could the 10 Hz difference wave be contributing to the political unrest in the region?


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Post  Posted 6 Aug 2013 2:21 pm     by the way
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My marimba is tuned to A=442 Hz. Nobody notices.
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Jim Cohen


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Post  Posted 6 Aug 2013 3:06 pm     Re: by the way
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b0b wrote:
My marimba is tuned to A=442 Hz. Nobody notices.

What? Nobody notices when you play your marimba? Winking
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chris ivey


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Post  Posted 6 Aug 2013 4:23 pm    
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b0b, you know we're not supposed to bring up poltics on the forum....
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William Lake

 

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Post  Posted 6 Aug 2013 4:52 pm    
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I'm old enough to remember when electricty, or hydro as it is called in Ontario, was 25~. People were really ticked when they had to buy or alter their stuff.
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Barry Blackwood


Post  Posted 6 Aug 2013 5:50 pm    
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Marco Schouten


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Post  Posted 7 Aug 2013 7:55 am    
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This sort of rumors are just a conspiracy to start mass-hysteresis....
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