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Topic: Super Pro knee lever spacing |
Dan Beller-McKenna
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Durham, New Hampshire, USA
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Posted 31 Jul 2013 1:37 am |
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Wondering whether any other Super Pro owners find the spacing of the stock C6th LKR to be a little odd. It is located just inside pedal 8, and thus so close to RKL as to make it impossible to fully activate both at the same time. Not that one couldn’t set up the copedant to make activating them simultaneously unlikely, but why build in such a limitation? Has anyone moved there C6th LKR for this reason? For what it’s worth, there is plenty of room to shift the C6th LKR further towards the middle of the guitar, especially if no matching LKL or C6th LKV has been added.
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John Swain
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Winchester, Va
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Posted 31 Jul 2013 5:14 am
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| Dan,I had it like that on mine and it worked fine. Maybe you can reduce the throw or adjust the angle set screws. |
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Kevin Mincke
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Farmington, MN (Twin Cities-South Metro) USA
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Posted 31 Jul 2013 7:57 am
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| Mines the same as well.... |
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Dan Beller-McKenna
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Durham, New Hampshire, USA
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Posted 31 Jul 2013 9:46 am
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One really ought not to post early in the morning before taking one's anti-stupid pills (or sufficient coffee supplement). You're right John: adjusting the angle on the C6 LKR and the RKL did solve the problem.
Last edited by Dan Beller-McKenna on 31 Jul 2013 1:42 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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Donny Hinson
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Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
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Posted 31 Jul 2013 1:40 pm
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No need to apologize, we've all been there. 
(However, you can ignore the above if you played it like that for more than 10 years.  ) |
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Dan Beller-McKenna
From:
Durham, New Hampshire, USA
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Posted 31 Jul 2013 1:44 pm
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| If I had played it the way it was set up for the last ten years, let's just say there'd be no danger of my producing any more offspring.... |
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Mike DiAlesandro
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Kent, Ohio
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Posted 3 Aug 2013 6:45 pm Re: Super Pro knee lever spacing
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| Dan Beller-McKenna wrote: |
Wondering whether any other Super Pro owners find the spacing of the stock C6th LKR to be a little odd. It is located just inside pedal 8, and thus so close to RKL as to make it impossible to fully activate both at the same time. Not that one couldn’t set up the copedant to make activating them simultaneously unlikely, but why build in such a limitation? Has anyone moved there C6th LKR for this reason? For what it’s worth, there is plenty of room to shift the C6th LKR further towards the middle of the guitar, especially if no matching LKL or C6th LKV has been added.
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Actually I have had the same opinion since I bought my Super Pro last fall. My feelings are that the C6th LKR forces you to move your whole playing position too far right in comparison to other D10 steels. I was looking at lever yesterday wishing it was set further to the left, pondering my options, not wanting to drill any unnecessary holes.......  |
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Lynn Stafford
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Ridgefield, WA USA
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Posted 3 Aug 2013 9:56 pm Re: Super Pro knee lever spacing
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| Mike DiAlesandro wrote: |
| Dan Beller-McKenna wrote: |
Wondering whether any other Super Pro owners find the spacing of the stock C6th LKR to be a little odd. It is located just inside pedal 8, and thus so close to RKL as to make it impossible to fully activate both at the same time. Not that one couldn’t set up the copedant to make activating them simultaneously unlikely, but why build in such a limitation? Has anyone moved there C6th LKR for this reason? For what it’s worth, there is plenty of room to shift the C6th LKR further towards the middle of the guitar, especially if no matching LKL or C6th LKV has been added.
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Actually I have had the same opinion since I bought my Super Pro last fall. My feelings are that the C6th LKR forces you to move your whole playing position too far right in comparison to other D10 steels. I was looking at lever yesterday wishing it was set further to the left, pondering my options, not wanting to drill any unnecessary holes....... |
Dan and Mike,
It really would not be very hard to move the C6 LKR over one pedal shaft space, which would equate to 2 1/2" on a Sho-Bud. Of course you'd need longer pull rods by the same amount but that's about it. Here is a photo of an Emmons LeGrande that I just added three C6 levers to, along with an E9 outside LKL as a visual comparison. The pedal spacing on the Emmons is 2 3/8", so you can calculate the difference between the guitars.
Another simpler approach would be to fabricate an extension to the existing bracket. You could use a short piece of 1/4" aluminum flat bar that would bolt to the existing bracket (using a lap joint for stability). The lever handle would then bolt to this new extension. The length of this extension would dictate the new position of the lever. Beware of those pot metal brackets though, as they do tend to break when you least expect them to! I typically replace them with aluminum ones.
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Dan Beller-McKenna
From:
Durham, New Hampshire, USA
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Posted 4 Aug 2013 2:02 am
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Lynn and Mike,
eventually I am planning to move the lever over as Lynn suggested. It is slightly more complicated as I added a C6 LKL which will have to shift over as well, but I have plans for that as well (make it a short one and put it on the same axis as the current E9 LKR cross shaft, which will be extremely short and moved towards the front apron (This shaft only holds the lever itself, so it doesn't need any length.)
Already replaced all of those pot-metal knee lever brackets! Thanks for the reference pic Lynn. I actually have compiled a folder of pics from the forum of the undersides of steels with 8 or more knee levers. Your placement of the C6 LKR closer to the 7th pedal rod is far more common than what's on the Super Pro.
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